1 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:02,330 you're locked into Inception Radio 2 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:17,250 Network superior Wisconsin this is radio 3 00:00:22,910 --> 00:00:20,490 on the inception radio network a weekly 4 00:00:24,890 --> 00:00:22,920 audio Safari that features the newest 5 00:00:27,050 --> 00:00:24,900 and paranormal discoveries while 6 00:00:27,529 --> 00:00:27,060 highlighting the latest and not to be 7 00:00:30,349 --> 00:00:27,539 missed 8 00:00:32,450 --> 00:00:30,359 truth funder comm projects for truth 9 00:00:38,290 --> 00:00:32,460 seekers and true believers 10 00:00:43,580 --> 00:00:41,720 this is live radio show here on the 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:43,590 inception radio network my name is art 12 00:00:48,110 --> 00:00:45,930 Webb I am your host for this week and 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:48,120 look at truth blenders calm and 14 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:49,770 everything that is a paranormal 15 00:00:54,110 --> 00:00:51,600 metaphysical Universal and essentially 16 00:00:55,639 --> 00:00:54,120 good is about the light here thank you 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:00:55,649 so much for tuning in I am joined as 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:00:58,850 always by the CEO and founder of the 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:01,410 phenomenally brilliant website truth 20 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:03,210 finders calm his name is Mark Schwartz 21 00:01:06,469 --> 00:01:05,040 and Mark I am so much more with it this 22 00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:06,479 week that I could get out a full 23 00:01:10,550 --> 00:01:08,369 sentence without screwing it up your 24 00:01:11,810 --> 00:01:10,560 your so clear it's like a whole 25 00:01:15,170 --> 00:01:11,820 different person I'm talking to you 26 00:01:16,999 --> 00:01:15,180 tonight you know stay off drugs kids if 27 00:01:19,130 --> 00:01:17,009 you want a lesson and not taking drugs 28 00:01:21,109 --> 00:01:19,140 just go listen to last week's show well 29 00:01:25,039 --> 00:01:21,119 for anyone who missed last week's show 30 00:01:27,499 --> 00:01:25,049 art was he had a root canal and so he 31 00:01:31,190 --> 00:01:27,509 came on to the show literally like after 32 00:01:33,050 --> 00:01:31,200 having surgery and and I don't know how 33 00:01:36,679 --> 00:01:33,060 he did it he made it through the show it 34 00:01:38,270 --> 00:01:36,689 was a little bit you don't you should go 35 00:01:40,460 --> 00:01:38,280 back and listen are you kidding me 36 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:40,470 there's no way I'm gonna ever do that as 37 00:01:44,389 --> 00:01:41,970 far as I'm concerned it doesn't exist 38 00:01:46,910 --> 00:01:44,399 it was a little bit of a train wreck all 39 00:01:49,039 --> 00:01:46,920 I met but that's the fun you know that's 40 00:01:50,270 --> 00:01:49,049 that's the fun part of live radio and 41 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:50,280 you know I thought it was pretty 42 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:51,810 exciting I didn't know what was gonna 43 00:01:55,850 --> 00:01:53,970 happen or what you were gonna say so I'm 44 00:01:58,399 --> 00:01:55,860 really glad that you're you're back 45 00:01:59,510 --> 00:01:58,409 I appreciate you see our poor guests I 46 00:02:01,459 --> 00:01:59,520 mean I couldn't even tell you who the 47 00:02:02,899 --> 00:02:01,469 guest was honestly man I was so out of 48 00:02:04,730 --> 00:02:02,909 it and I feel bad for saying that but 49 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:04,740 that is the honest-to-god truth is I 50 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:06,930 just I have no recollection I was so 51 00:02:11,970 --> 00:02:10,140 high on painkillers I mean it was a lie 52 00:02:16,140 --> 00:02:11,980 Donnelly and you better 53 00:02:17,820 --> 00:02:16,150 we're gonna be on his show no we talked 54 00:02:19,020 --> 00:02:17,830 about um the thing that I'm interested 55 00:02:20,460 --> 00:02:19,030 in okay hold on let me see if I can 56 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:20,470 bring it back up here okay you can get 57 00:02:24,780 --> 00:02:22,090 was interested in it and I was like oh I 58 00:02:26,610 --> 00:02:24,790 want to talk about that Hollow Earth it 59 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:26,620 was all worth it was all over it was it 60 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:27,370 was Hollow Earth 61 00:02:31,770 --> 00:02:29,650 very good art eight eight nine one nine 62 00:02:34,350 --> 00:02:31,780 two three five five cellphone number 63 00:02:36,809 --> 00:02:34,360 here at transponders radio 888 nine one 64 00:02:39,539 --> 00:02:36,819 nine two three five five we're here on 65 00:02:41,729 --> 00:02:39,549 IR in and it is great to be back in 66 00:02:43,860 --> 00:02:41,739 feeling like myself again and thank God 67 00:02:45,690 --> 00:02:43,870 that that happened this week not no 68 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:45,700 disrespect to Eli but we have a 69 00:02:49,050 --> 00:02:47,530 phenomenal show lined up for you tonight 70 00:02:50,819 --> 00:02:49,060 and I would not have wanted to screw 71 00:02:52,350 --> 00:02:50,829 this one up as a matter of fact this 72 00:02:53,610 --> 00:02:52,360 show's gonna be a two-part episode we 73 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:53,620 were good we're gonna be joined by the 74 00:02:57,059 --> 00:02:55,120 guests that we have on the for this 75 00:02:58,920 --> 00:02:57,069 episode again next week because there's 76 00:03:00,420 --> 00:02:58,930 so much to cover with them there's so 77 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:00,430 much content there's such a breadth of 78 00:03:03,270 --> 00:03:02,170 history there that there's no way in 79 00:03:04,650 --> 00:03:03,280 hell we're gonna get it done in 90 80 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:04,660 minutes so we're gonna have to take an 81 00:03:08,910 --> 00:03:07,209 extended three hours to get this one and 82 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:08,920 it is gonna be great it's gonna be 83 00:03:14,069 --> 00:03:11,650 fantastic and something I want to bring 84 00:03:16,410 --> 00:03:14,079 up that you talked about last week art 85 00:03:21,780 --> 00:03:16,420 was you're talking about angel numbers 86 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:21,790 and maybe do you remember that literally 87 00:03:26,069 --> 00:03:24,250 I saw an angel number of sequins pop up 88 00:03:28,050 --> 00:03:26,079 in front of me and I stoat aliy side 89 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:28,060 rail to you and said hey angel numbers 90 00:03:30,690 --> 00:03:29,410 let's talk about that because that's 91 00:03:33,690 --> 00:03:30,700 right 92 00:03:36,330 --> 00:03:33,700 it was a total side rail but it got me 93 00:03:37,710 --> 00:03:36,340 looking so many years ago in college 94 00:03:40,559 --> 00:03:37,720 well not that long ago 95 00:03:42,479 --> 00:03:40,569 I suppose I found this book in the 96 00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:42,489 bookstore and it was by an author named 97 00:03:46,289 --> 00:03:44,799 Allan Vaughan and I don't know if you if 98 00:03:48,870 --> 00:03:46,299 you've heard of him but he wrote this 99 00:03:52,349 --> 00:03:48,880 book called patterns of prophecy and art 100 00:03:53,550 --> 00:03:52,359 I have I've heard of that book I was 101 00:03:54,870 --> 00:03:53,560 supposed to read that somebody 102 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:54,880 recommended that book to me and I was 103 00:03:58,199 --> 00:03:56,170 supposed to pick it up and read it and I 104 00:03:59,339 --> 00:03:58,209 never did and I probably should because 105 00:04:01,170 --> 00:03:59,349 now you're the second person to tell me 106 00:04:02,699 --> 00:04:01,180 that it is you know what I'm gonna sent 107 00:04:05,220 --> 00:04:02,709 it to you it's actually an autographed 108 00:04:07,020 --> 00:04:05,230 copy that I picked up and I had no idea 109 00:04:08,699 --> 00:04:07,030 what I was looking at or what I was 110 00:04:10,770 --> 00:04:08,709 interested in you know when you start 111 00:04:13,379 --> 00:04:10,780 getting into the paranormal and you 112 00:04:15,089 --> 00:04:13,389 don't really know much about it yet but 113 00:04:18,029 --> 00:04:15,099 you know that there's more out there 114 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:18,039 than meets the eye and so you start to 115 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:19,570 pick up little things here and there 116 00:04:23,219 --> 00:04:21,130 well this is one of the books that I 117 00:04:24,890 --> 00:04:23,229 picked up and and I never really I think 118 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:24,900 I started looking at it but 119 00:04:29,450 --> 00:04:26,850 never really picked it up and I am 120 00:04:31,610 --> 00:04:29,460 amazed thanks to you and your angel 121 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:31,620 numbers I picked this up I just want to 122 00:04:35,330 --> 00:04:33,570 quote this to you real quick if I can 123 00:04:37,939 --> 00:04:35,340 you're gonna love this and I'm gonna 124 00:04:42,650 --> 00:04:37,949 send it to you in the mail and you're 125 00:04:44,930 --> 00:04:42,660 gonna get Dragon 126 00:04:47,390 --> 00:04:44,940 I want the tracking numbers magic all 127 00:04:49,550 --> 00:04:47,400 right so check this out patterns of 128 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:49,560 prophecy from the beginning of man there 129 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:51,090 have been men and women who have 130 00:04:54,260 --> 00:04:52,650 attempted to see into the future 131 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:54,270 some have attempted with little success 132 00:04:58,370 --> 00:04:56,310 to predict through reason and knowledge 133 00:04:59,870 --> 00:04:58,380 of the past and amazingly a few 134 00:05:02,779 --> 00:04:59,880 individuals have successfully 135 00:05:05,629 --> 00:05:02,789 prophesized from mystical insights the 136 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:05,639 ability of these individuals has far too 137 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:08,130 long been clouded in superstition Allen 138 00:05:12,290 --> 00:05:10,410 Vaughn a prophet who predicted whose 139 00:05:13,969 --> 00:05:12,300 predictions concerning the Apollo 140 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:13,979 missions the Robert Kennedy 141 00:05:18,010 --> 00:05:15,690 assassination and the Watergate scandal 142 00:05:21,230 --> 00:05:18,020 have received nationwide attention 143 00:05:22,939 --> 00:05:21,240 attempts in patterns of prophecy to take 144 00:05:26,029 --> 00:05:22,949 some of the mystery out of the subject 145 00:05:28,730 --> 00:05:26,039 Vaughn believes that each individual has 146 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:28,740 an inner psychic blueprint I love that a 147 00:05:34,730 --> 00:05:31,410 psychic blueprint is like much like 148 00:05:36,740 --> 00:05:34,740 physical rna-dna blueprint and prophets 149 00:05:39,110 --> 00:05:36,750 have the ability to recognize and read 150 00:05:42,250 --> 00:05:39,120 these blueprints he has synthesized the 151 00:05:45,710 --> 00:05:42,260 concepts of synchronicity coincidence 152 00:05:47,659 --> 00:05:45,720 archetypal rolls prophetic dreams inside 153 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:47,669 fields to formulate a plausible 154 00:05:53,149 --> 00:05:49,860 explanation for the amazing phenomenon 155 00:05:54,980 --> 00:05:53,159 called prophecy so this is like this is 156 00:05:56,570 --> 00:05:54,990 right up your alley and I have to send 157 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:56,580 it to you solutely no yeah please drop 158 00:06:02,270 --> 00:05:57,900 that sucker in the mail I would love to 159 00:06:05,570 --> 00:06:02,280 read that that would be find this book 160 00:06:09,350 --> 00:06:05,580 again I found this in a bookstore in 161 00:06:11,779 --> 00:06:09,360 Arizona in Tucson Arizona this just huge 162 00:06:13,310 --> 00:06:11,789 random old used bookstore are these 163 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:13,320 sounds coming across by the way these 164 00:06:16,820 --> 00:06:15,510 weird like dingle-dangle that are 165 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:16,830 happening on my computer is that coming 166 00:06:21,409 --> 00:06:17,280 out on there 167 00:06:25,490 --> 00:06:21,419 sorry okay cool I think I think we're 168 00:06:27,589 --> 00:06:25,500 good and hopefully yeah so oh and he 169 00:06:30,500 --> 00:06:27,599 also going you know full circle 170 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:30,510 reference back to your D habilitated 171 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:33,570 state last week he talks about how he 172 00:06:41,290 --> 00:06:37,730 went to an LSD ESP 173 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:41,300 I guess conference I mean so I know 174 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:43,010 you're you're really interested in all 175 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:48,310 that so this book was written in 176 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:57,050 copyright 1970s order the 60s it's not 177 00:07:02,130 --> 00:06:58,610 what that it didn't come out in the last 178 00:07:04,660 --> 00:07:02,140 20 years no no yeah it's it's old and 179 00:07:07,030 --> 00:07:04,670 it's I'm really surprised I don't hear 180 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:07,040 more about it because there's so much of 181 00:07:12,370 --> 00:07:09,530 the stuff that is like we discuss this 182 00:07:14,770 --> 00:07:12,380 now and it's I think you know in some 183 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:14,780 ways coast to coast has brought the word 184 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:17,330 synchronicity back out and people use 185 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:20,000 that word a lot we credit really coast 186 00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:21,770 to coast for synchronicity being set you 187 00:07:25,450 --> 00:07:23,870 know back in our vernacular as a society 188 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:25,460 I don't think so I think synchronicity 189 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:28,730 in itself is a synchronicity in that in 190 00:07:34,780 --> 00:07:31,910 his it is almost in a way energetically 191 00:07:36,730 --> 00:07:34,790 propelled itself back into the common 192 00:07:38,380 --> 00:07:36,740 language here that were speaking I don't 193 00:07:39,460 --> 00:07:38,390 think you can't create anybody except 194 00:07:42,460 --> 00:07:39,470 for the word itself I think it actually 195 00:07:44,290 --> 00:07:42,470 forced itself up and out as its own sort 196 00:07:47,110 --> 00:07:44,300 of synchronicity if that makes sense no 197 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:47,120 it does and I completely agree I think 198 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:49,280 it's sort of Liam urged in pop culture 199 00:07:54,670 --> 00:07:52,850 and and that was one of the 2012 by the 200 00:07:56,650 --> 00:07:54,680 way too right after December 21st 2012 201 00:07:58,540 --> 00:07:56,660 was when that word started really 202 00:08:00,160 --> 00:07:58,550 popping again I'd noticed because I 203 00:08:04,030 --> 00:08:00,170 everything that happened around that 204 00:08:06,100 --> 00:08:04,040 time I took particular attention to sit 205 00:08:07,810 --> 00:08:06,110 down and be aware of it and remember it 206 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:07,820 and take notice because I knew like 207 00:08:11,590 --> 00:08:09,410 things were happening I mean something 208 00:08:13,570 --> 00:08:11,600 clearly happened in that one moment what 209 00:08:16,540 --> 00:08:13,580 that was for debate obviously but 210 00:08:19,420 --> 00:08:16,550 whatever happened there was a shift and 211 00:08:21,370 --> 00:08:19,430 certain things started taking place and 212 00:08:23,140 --> 00:08:21,380 one of them was that word just being 213 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:23,150 started it was just thrown around so 214 00:08:26,830 --> 00:08:25,010 much more and ever increasingly it's 215 00:08:29,770 --> 00:08:26,840 exponential I mean we hear it everywhere 216 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:29,780 now yeah we do and this book was 217 00:08:33,700 --> 00:08:31,910 published in 1973 and they talk about 218 00:08:37,060 --> 00:08:33,710 synchronicity and one of the great 219 00:08:38,620 --> 00:08:37,070 things is this was used in college it 220 00:08:42,820 --> 00:08:38,630 was I bought it in a college bookstore 221 00:08:46,180 --> 00:08:42,830 so this book was taught in the author by 222 00:08:47,590 --> 00:08:46,190 the author yeah and and it was taught in 223 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:47,600 the class because I remember there was 224 00:08:52,300 --> 00:08:50,690 there was a whole bunch of them so so 225 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:52,310 find that really really interesting and 226 00:08:56,650 --> 00:08:53,650 the fact that they do use the word 227 00:08:58,960 --> 00:08:56,660 synchronicity so much in this book shows 228 00:09:04,090 --> 00:08:58,970 how far back that word actually goes and 229 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:04,100 really at least my wife she she is a 230 00:09:09,100 --> 00:09:07,370 very like deep knowledge of the whole 231 00:09:10,060 --> 00:09:09,110 concept in the word itself I'd too bad 232 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:10,070 she's not here because I would ask her 233 00:09:11,290 --> 00:09:10,850 she would know the answer to that 234 00:09:14,410 --> 00:09:11,300 question 235 00:09:16,210 --> 00:09:14,420 I wonder if Allen Vagan is still still 236 00:09:17,530 --> 00:09:16,220 alive I'll have to look into that I love 237 00:09:20,290 --> 00:09:17,540 this it's gonna mung the show the 238 00:09:22,660 --> 00:09:20,300 blueprint the blueprint of life I think 239 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:22,670 that's so beautiful I really love that 240 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:25,010 word no and this whole synchronicity 241 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:26,690 angel numbers thing I want this to be an 242 00:09:29,980 --> 00:09:28,370 ongoing topic on the show from week to 243 00:09:32,380 --> 00:09:29,990 week and if that's something that you 244 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:32,390 have thoughts that you would like to add 245 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:34,010 to the conversation I do encourage you 246 00:09:36,790 --> 00:09:35,510 to call it because this is this is a 247 00:09:38,110 --> 00:09:36,800 conversation that I want to continue 248 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:38,120 having because I think it's important 249 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:39,650 eight eight eight nine one nine two 250 00:09:44,860 --> 00:09:41,090 three five five is again the telephone 251 00:09:46,870 --> 00:09:44,870 number here at radio and and one last 252 00:09:50,230 --> 00:09:46,880 thing before we before we bring on our 253 00:09:53,170 --> 00:09:50,240 guests I want to say that thank you to 254 00:09:55,330 --> 00:09:53,180 everyone over the past few weeks for for 255 00:09:59,080 --> 00:09:55,340 sending your emails for contacting us 256 00:10:00,880 --> 00:09:59,090 yeah we we see the numbers we know that 257 00:10:02,050 --> 00:10:00,890 we're you know there's thousands of you 258 00:10:04,270 --> 00:10:02,060 out there that are listening and 259 00:10:05,410 --> 00:10:04,280 participate so shocked this is a common 260 00:10:06,550 --> 00:10:05,420 sorry to interrupt you but this was a 261 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:06,560 conversation you and I were having on 262 00:10:10,990 --> 00:10:08,720 the phone before the show today and we 263 00:10:12,460 --> 00:10:11,000 have high listening numbers I mean this 264 00:10:13,810 --> 00:10:12,470 is a brand-new show and for the amount 265 00:10:15,250 --> 00:10:13,820 of time that we've been on the air 266 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:15,260 versus how many of you are tuning in 267 00:10:18,340 --> 00:10:16,970 especially new listeners from week to 268 00:10:21,250 --> 00:10:18,350 week we see a lot of growth in that as 269 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:21,260 well I am NOT shocked but I am surprised 270 00:10:25,150 --> 00:10:23,930 and and I do want to thank everyone as 271 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:25,160 well mark is typically the one to do 272 00:10:29,470 --> 00:10:28,250 that but we have just so much higher 273 00:10:31,870 --> 00:10:29,480 than I ever would have expected and 274 00:10:34,510 --> 00:10:31,880 that's it want to say that yeah and and 275 00:10:35,950 --> 00:10:34,520 that being said to you know we we come 276 00:10:37,630 --> 00:10:35,960 up with these really fun things to do 277 00:10:39,250 --> 00:10:37,640 each week and one of the one of the 278 00:10:41,110 --> 00:10:39,260 things that we've been doing is a remote 279 00:10:44,380 --> 00:10:41,120 viewing a weekly remote viewing session 280 00:10:46,510 --> 00:10:44,390 where I hold something and then I ask 281 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:46,520 people to think about it for we give 282 00:10:51,010 --> 00:10:48,770 them 10 seconds they think about it and 283 00:10:53,230 --> 00:10:51,020 then they go to Facebook and they write 284 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:53,240 the answer of what it is their remote 285 00:10:56,829 --> 00:10:55,490 viewing because we're trying to get 286 00:10:58,690 --> 00:10:56,839 close we're trying to see if there's 287 00:11:01,270 --> 00:10:58,700 someone out there and it's a fun game 288 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:01,280 and the first the first three weeks that 289 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:03,170 we did it or two or three weeks we did 290 00:11:06,819 --> 00:11:04,610 it we got a lot of response and 291 00:11:08,259 --> 00:11:06,829 people were really engaged and last week 292 00:11:10,630 --> 00:11:08,269 we did it there wasn't a lot of 293 00:11:13,569 --> 00:11:10,640 engagement and so I think I'm gonna take 294 00:11:15,130 --> 00:11:13,579 that off the air for a while unless I 295 00:11:17,829 --> 00:11:15,140 hear from people that they really liked 296 00:11:20,230 --> 00:11:17,839 it and they enjoyed it you know that you 297 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:20,240 have to speak with your words people and 298 00:11:23,590 --> 00:11:21,649 there's a lot of you listening so you 299 00:11:25,810 --> 00:11:23,600 can speak by calling in and saying that 300 00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:25,820 you liked it or you can participate when 301 00:11:30,819 --> 00:11:28,310 we do something so let us know and be 302 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:30,829 vocal and and send us an email or shoot 303 00:11:36,910 --> 00:11:35,510 us message on facebook if you like know 304 00:11:38,319 --> 00:11:36,920 what's the email address because you 305 00:11:41,259 --> 00:11:38,329 can't say send us an e no and then not 306 00:11:45,610 --> 00:11:41,269 give them an email address to use all 307 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:45,620 right truth funders at gmail.com let's 308 00:11:49,090 --> 00:11:47,510 just do it simple and that goes right to 309 00:11:50,139 --> 00:11:49,100 use that doesn't go to like a bot or 310 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:50,149 somebody else I go straight to march 311 00:11:55,930 --> 00:11:52,250 toward something that does it does go 312 00:11:58,420 --> 00:11:55,940 straight to me so who knows when I'm in 313 00:12:00,250 --> 00:11:58,430 for by like giving out the full email 314 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:00,260 but I'm putting it out there because I 315 00:12:03,730 --> 00:12:01,370 want to hear what people have to say 316 00:12:06,220 --> 00:12:03,740 your involvement in the show is really 317 00:12:07,870 --> 00:12:06,230 important to us eight eight nine one 318 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:07,880 nine two three five five again is the 319 00:12:11,470 --> 00:12:09,769 telephone number here at Ruth funders 320 00:12:13,090 --> 00:12:11,480 radio on the inception radio network all 321 00:12:14,829 --> 00:12:13,100 right um usually you and I'd like to be 322 00:12:16,870 --> 00:12:14,839 asked quite a bit but like I said a 323 00:12:18,910 --> 00:12:16,880 minute ago we got to get to our guests 324 00:12:21,610 --> 00:12:18,920 because we need all the time that we can 325 00:12:23,050 --> 00:12:21,620 possibly conjure up in order to properly 326 00:12:25,420 --> 00:12:23,060 give them the respect they deserve I 327 00:12:27,550 --> 00:12:25,430 want to take a moment actually to give a 328 00:12:29,290 --> 00:12:27,560 proper introduction to our guests this 329 00:12:33,009 --> 00:12:29,300 evening we have two people on as a 330 00:12:36,340 --> 00:12:33,019 matter of fact their names are Chad and 331 00:12:40,689 --> 00:12:36,350 Ulta and they met and married in the 332 00:12:41,740 --> 00:12:40,699 early 90s and a little maybe a lot of 333 00:12:44,139 --> 00:12:41,750 people know that it's held Little Rock 334 00:12:45,910 --> 00:12:44,149 Arkansas the marriage was actually one 335 00:12:47,410 --> 00:12:45,920 of destiny as Aalto would say and she'll 336 00:12:48,730 --> 00:12:47,420 say in a moment when we bring her on it 337 00:12:50,439 --> 00:12:48,740 was arranged by the powers that be and I 338 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:50,449 know what that feeling is like because I 339 00:12:54,939 --> 00:12:53,510 have the exact same situation with what 340 00:12:56,860 --> 00:12:54,949 they did not though though at the time 341 00:12:58,150 --> 00:12:56,870 is that from the moment on the couple 342 00:12:59,470 --> 00:12:58,160 would take part in a journey into the 343 00:13:01,060 --> 00:12:59,480 world of unknown and complete high 344 00:13:03,340 --> 00:13:01,070 strangeness that's why they join us here 345 00:13:05,769 --> 00:13:03,350 on truth finders from aliens to ghosts 346 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:05,779 to an ever changing werewolf from 347 00:13:09,910 --> 00:13:07,610 meeting people who have been seen and 348 00:13:12,550 --> 00:13:09,920 some unseen this is a story for the 349 00:13:13,870 --> 00:13:12,560 open-minded so you you find listener you 350 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:13,880 listening I look at you you're listening 351 00:13:18,489 --> 00:13:15,890 to us right now and I see you you're 352 00:13:22,289 --> 00:13:18,499 open-minded I know in 1995 353 00:13:25,119 --> 00:13:22,299 Delta experienced their first UFO a 354 00:13:26,919 --> 00:13:25,129 massive site in Hammond Louisiana and 355 00:13:28,809 --> 00:13:26,929 this experience opened their eyes and 356 00:13:30,969 --> 00:13:28,819 led them to the well-known French 357 00:13:34,269 --> 00:13:30,979 Quarter in New Orleans where the high 358 00:13:35,829 --> 00:13:34,279 strange it's just continued as they 359 00:13:37,179 --> 00:13:35,839 tried to take day by day to understand 360 00:13:39,459 --> 00:13:37,189 their place and purpose of these unusual 361 00:13:41,229 --> 00:13:39,469 events they met a young lady a co-worker 362 00:13:42,909 --> 00:13:41,239 named Jacqueline little did Jacqueline 363 00:13:46,929 --> 00:13:42,919 know that this would be the most unusual 364 00:13:48,549 --> 00:13:46,939 bond of her entire life in 1997 a night 365 00:13:49,329 --> 00:13:48,559 that would live with them until their 366 00:13:51,369 --> 00:13:49,339 last breath 367 00:13:52,689 --> 00:13:51,379 chad alta and jacqueline were taken from 368 00:13:55,299 --> 00:13:52,699 street corner in the French Quarter 369 00:13:57,429 --> 00:13:55,309 altar calls this the night of missing 370 00:13:58,959 --> 00:13:57,439 time where the three have shared their 371 00:14:02,139 --> 00:13:58,969 own individual extraterrestrial 372 00:14:04,209 --> 00:14:02,149 experiences everything from Chad's blue 373 00:14:06,789 --> 00:14:04,219 being encounter altars blonde female 374 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:06,799 interaction and an implant found in her 375 00:14:10,689 --> 00:14:09,169 arm and four digit prints their story 376 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:10,699 will absolutely take your breath away 377 00:14:14,169 --> 00:14:12,529 and I cannot wait to get into it with 378 00:14:17,319 --> 00:14:14,179 them the high strings just continued 379 00:14:19,509 --> 00:14:17,329 when in 1999 Chad and also moved to at 380 00:14:20,739 --> 00:14:19,519 New Mexico which is by the way a hotbed 381 00:14:23,799 --> 00:14:20,749 for paranormal activity 382 00:14:26,979 --> 00:14:23,809 and Chad went face to face with a black 383 00:14:28,239 --> 00:14:26,989 eyed unknown being there the couple 384 00:14:29,919 --> 00:14:28,249 moved quite frequently as they made 385 00:14:31,419 --> 00:14:29,929 their way into Denver Colorado to find 386 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:31,429 work and found themselves in the middle 387 00:14:35,859 --> 00:14:33,289 of the infamous Columbine High School 388 00:14:37,659 --> 00:14:35,869 massacre which everybody remembers in 389 00:14:39,309 --> 00:14:37,669 2001 the couple found their way to 390 00:14:41,769 --> 00:14:39,319 Alabama where Chad worked with his dad 391 00:14:44,019 --> 00:14:41,779 in the locomotive business they stayed 392 00:14:45,729 --> 00:14:44,029 there and to bring high strangeness into 393 00:14:48,119 --> 00:14:45,739 their own lives the strange encounters 394 00:14:50,319 --> 00:14:48,129 just continued and continued continued 395 00:14:51,939 --> 00:14:50,329 might be that they're following you know 396 00:14:55,389 --> 00:14:51,949 it's just following them around these 397 00:14:58,149 --> 00:14:55,399 energies just attach themselves to them 398 00:15:00,189 --> 00:14:58,159 and it just runs with them chattin Alta 399 00:15:01,929 --> 00:15:00,199 encountered their second UFO in Alabama 400 00:15:03,129 --> 00:15:01,939 and discovered that one of the family 401 00:15:05,169 --> 00:15:03,139 members there has had a similar 402 00:15:06,460 --> 00:15:05,179 experience so thank you so much Chad and 403 00:15:10,869 --> 00:15:06,470 Ulta for joining us on truth on his 404 00:15:13,210 --> 00:15:10,879 radio well thank you for having us yes 405 00:15:14,999 --> 00:15:13,220 thank you so much for this it's such an 406 00:15:17,559 --> 00:15:15,009 honor for both of us 407 00:15:19,839 --> 00:15:17,569 it's a huge honor for us honestly you 408 00:15:21,159 --> 00:15:19,849 guys are you know you you guys are known 409 00:15:22,599 --> 00:15:21,169 people know about you you've been 410 00:15:25,089 --> 00:15:22,609 involved with this stuff for long enough 411 00:15:29,139 --> 00:15:25,099 that you are names in this world and we 412 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:29,149 are honored to have you on the show it's 413 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:35,270 it's going on mark what do you know uh 414 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:37,110 seems to be a little bit of delay so I 415 00:15:40,730 --> 00:15:38,370 guess we're just gonna have to work with 416 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:40,740 that so thank you us so much again for 417 00:15:43,970 --> 00:15:42,510 joining us where should we start I mean 418 00:15:45,980 --> 00:15:43,980 I want to talk about your guys's story 419 00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:45,990 your history and everything that's going 420 00:15:48,770 --> 00:15:48,000 to go into your truth runners project 421 00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:48,780 which we'll talk about a little bit 422 00:15:50,570 --> 00:15:50,220 later on in the program but I want to 423 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:50,580 know 424 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:53,370 I guess essentially after everything I 425 00:16:01,910 --> 00:15:56,130 just recap there what would you say is 426 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:01,920 the single most potent and concentrated 427 00:16:04,820 --> 00:16:03,510 memory of everything that has ever 428 00:16:06,170 --> 00:16:04,830 happen to you what is the one that 429 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:06,180 sticks out to both of you I want to ask 430 00:16:11,690 --> 00:16:08,010 you individually six out to each of you 431 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:11,700 as just like the single greatest moment 432 00:16:21,260 --> 00:16:13,410 maybe that great but just important 433 00:16:23,810 --> 00:16:21,270 moment in your paranormal lives well you 434 00:16:28,010 --> 00:16:23,820 know I'm sure it's our night of missing 435 00:16:32,750 --> 00:16:28,020 time is is probably the most important 436 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:32,760 at least to me you know when when I was 437 00:16:42,890 --> 00:16:35,490 encountered by blue being you know it 438 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:42,900 was just very spiritual and sad hey hey 439 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:45,570 guys I'm so so sorry I dropped out for a 440 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:48,930 moment and I'm back now yeah I would I 441 00:16:54,530 --> 00:16:52,410 would love to gosh there's so much here 442 00:16:58,610 --> 00:16:54,540 and I think there's a lot of people out 443 00:17:00,980 --> 00:16:58,620 there that might not know the full 444 00:17:03,260 --> 00:17:00,990 length of your story and we want to we 445 00:17:05,329 --> 00:17:03,270 want to really just dive into it today 446 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:05,339 and we also want to get people some time 447 00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:07,770 to ask you guys some questions and so 448 00:17:13,579 --> 00:17:09,839 I'm thinking if we could start at the 449 00:17:15,650 --> 00:17:13,589 very beginning let's let's say that I 450 00:17:18,740 --> 00:17:15,660 don't know anything about your journey 451 00:17:20,689 --> 00:17:18,750 and and how you guys met I mean I 452 00:17:22,100 --> 00:17:20,699 personally do because I follow the story 453 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:22,110 and I've been listening to interviews 454 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:24,089 that you guys have been doing and I find 455 00:17:28,730 --> 00:17:26,610 you so fascinating and there's so many 456 00:17:32,450 --> 00:17:28,740 reasons why because I think the energy 457 00:17:34,850 --> 00:17:32,460 that you you carry with you is its 458 00:17:37,730 --> 00:17:34,860 potent its infectious in fact when I was 459 00:17:39,530 --> 00:17:37,740 talking to Ulta when we first talked 460 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:39,540 over this weekend while we were talking 461 00:17:44,990 --> 00:17:42,210 there was a bird that flew through the 462 00:17:45,740 --> 00:17:45,000 window in my room and just sat there 463 00:17:48,020 --> 00:17:45,750 sitting 464 00:17:49,820 --> 00:17:48,030 on my windowsill what is it do it 465 00:17:51,380 --> 00:17:49,830 animals like coming in and giving you 466 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:51,390 signs that is a particular thing that 467 00:17:54,590 --> 00:17:53,130 happens to you alone I don't know that 468 00:17:56,570 --> 00:17:54,600 happening to anyone else other than you 469 00:17:59,870 --> 00:17:56,580 that's crazy I don't know I don't know 470 00:18:02,210 --> 00:17:59,880 but it's something that I I noticed 471 00:18:04,159 --> 00:18:02,220 right away and I actually while I was 472 00:18:06,620 --> 00:18:04,169 talking to Ulta I was trying to take a 473 00:18:08,270 --> 00:18:06,630 picture of the bird simultaneously with 474 00:18:11,210 --> 00:18:08,280 the phone because I wanted to send it to 475 00:18:14,029 --> 00:18:11,220 her but that sort of energy seems to 476 00:18:15,740 --> 00:18:14,039 encompass both of you so I would love to 477 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:15,750 hear your story from from the beginning 478 00:18:22,220 --> 00:18:18,720 and and if you could fill our minds and 479 00:18:25,130 --> 00:18:22,230 the listening audience with sort of set 480 00:18:28,220 --> 00:18:25,140 the scene for us of how it all began and 481 00:18:30,409 --> 00:18:28,230 how you two met and and how this energy 482 00:18:32,090 --> 00:18:30,419 started and just very quickly to follow 483 00:18:33,740 --> 00:18:32,100 up with marks question - I think one of 484 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:33,750 the things that it's kind of a two-part 485 00:18:37,610 --> 00:18:35,610 question but I want to get into as well 486 00:18:40,100 --> 00:18:37,620 is what it is about your marriage in 487 00:18:42,860 --> 00:18:40,110 your relationship that leads you to say 488 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:42,870 that it was made by the powers that be 489 00:18:46,370 --> 00:18:44,730 though the power the universal energy 490 00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:46,380 that is greater than us what is it about 491 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:48,000 your relationship that makes that so 492 00:18:52,490 --> 00:18:49,850 clearly 493 00:18:56,149 --> 00:18:52,500 well Chad's motioning for me to go ahead 494 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:56,159 and begin and as I usually do because as 495 00:19:01,880 --> 00:18:58,530 they say age before beauty and I'm 10 496 00:19:07,460 --> 00:19:01,890 years older than Chad born in the late 497 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:07,470 50s in the deserts of Arizona so imagine 498 00:19:12,049 --> 00:19:09,450 back to somewhere between nineteen 499 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:12,059 fifty-seven fifty-eight I'm about six 500 00:19:15,980 --> 00:19:12,960 months old 501 00:19:22,370 --> 00:19:15,990 my mom who raised me predominantly alone 502 00:19:25,399 --> 00:19:22,380 in her life had chose to leave leave my 503 00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:25,409 father and and father's people and so on 504 00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:28,320 and she says that while she was driving 505 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:30,799 across the desert and I'm not sure where 506 00:19:37,549 --> 00:19:34,320 she's speaking about but she she claims 507 00:19:42,049 --> 00:19:37,559 that I'm the only passenger in the car 508 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:42,059 and she says it's daylight and her claim 509 00:19:47,450 --> 00:19:45,570 is that a small metallic craft sometimes 510 00:19:50,510 --> 00:19:47,460 she would use that term sometimes she 511 00:19:52,190 --> 00:19:50,520 would say UFO she didn't speak of it 512 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:52,200 very often because of course she had to 513 00:19:56,299 --> 00:19:54,090 pick and choose who she was talking to 514 00:19:58,190 --> 00:19:56,309 and she didn't trust a lot of people 515 00:19:58,890 --> 00:19:58,200 needless to say with this kind of 516 00:20:02,730 --> 00:19:58,900 Congress 517 00:20:04,830 --> 00:20:02,740 but she she says that literally a craft 518 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:04,840 came out of the sky and stopped her on 519 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:08,050 the highway now when she would mention 520 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:11,530 this I would cringe it embarrassed me so 521 00:20:16,740 --> 00:20:15,010 badly and it I think maybe frightened me 522 00:20:18,620 --> 00:20:16,750 also because I couldn't believe these 523 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:18,630 words were coming out of my mom's mouth 524 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:21,730 I know that I never challenged anything 525 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:24,610 that she said I just tried to you know 526 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:26,890 remove myself from that and I've never 527 00:20:31,910 --> 00:20:29,200 had an interest in the subject at all 528 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:31,920 Steve man last year if she if she also 529 00:20:37,290 --> 00:20:34,890 was somebody that was into that sort of 530 00:20:40,170 --> 00:20:37,300 paranormal type subject matter or if she 531 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:40,180 was actually much less so and someone 532 00:20:42,690 --> 00:20:41,410 that would you would call a step 533 00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:42,700 [\h__\h] something like that not 534 00:20:49,230 --> 00:20:46,630 happened to her otherwise all right I'm 535 00:20:51,180 --> 00:20:49,240 so sorry because you're very lovable for 536 00:21:00,660 --> 00:20:51,190 us and I only caught a part of what you 537 00:21:01,620 --> 00:21:00,670 said one more for you um what would you 538 00:21:03,900 --> 00:21:01,630 call your mother somebody that would 539 00:21:05,310 --> 00:21:03,910 tend to believe in extraterrestrials of 540 00:21:06,860 --> 00:21:05,320 the paranormal to begin with or would 541 00:21:12,150 --> 00:21:06,870 she be a step dick 542 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:12,160 otherwise again I'm not a subject that I 543 00:21:16,620 --> 00:21:14,170 ever really remember discussing with her 544 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:16,630 so what I do know that she would say 545 00:21:20,670 --> 00:21:18,640 throughout her life my mom was a very 546 00:21:22,910 --> 00:21:20,680 accomplished woman started college and 547 00:21:25,020 --> 00:21:22,920 forties got a degree in law by 50 548 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:25,030 President Clinton at the time was 549 00:21:28,530 --> 00:21:26,710 Attorney General for the state of 550 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:28,540 Arkansas happen to be one of her law 551 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:31,510 professors fourth semester so as I say 552 00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:34,480 she was she was a self-made woman very 553 00:21:41,970 --> 00:21:36,880 active in the community that kind of 554 00:21:44,570 --> 00:21:41,980 individual but seemed very open to she 555 00:21:47,220 --> 00:21:44,580 loved science fiction she'd always also 556 00:21:50,340 --> 00:21:47,230 indicated often that she would love to 557 00:21:52,260 --> 00:21:50,350 go into space again these are subjects 558 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:52,270 that I had no interest in so I never 559 00:21:57,210 --> 00:21:54,250 there wasn't much dialogue about it 560 00:21:59,610 --> 00:21:57,220 between her and I I don't know that she 561 00:22:02,850 --> 00:21:59,620 ever actively sought anything out but 562 00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:02,860 again a very open woman she has a 563 00:22:08,130 --> 00:22:06,640 daughter who again kind of following up 564 00:22:11,490 --> 00:22:08,140 with what I said to you about when I'm 565 00:22:12,750 --> 00:22:11,500 six months old if we could move me to 566 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:12,760 around somewhere between 567 00:22:16,620 --> 00:22:14,770 eight and nine I think that's an 568 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:16,630 appropriate I believe somewhere between 569 00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:19,090 eight years old and nine years old we 570 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:22,000 lived in this is when my stepfather was 571 00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:24,330 alive she was married to my stepfather 572 00:22:30,810 --> 00:22:28,900 we lived in Aurora Colorado and so 573 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:30,820 happened to live across the street from 574 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:33,010 a large military hospital called 575 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:38,170 Fitzsimmons Hospital my first memory 576 00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:40,210 because I don't have any childhood 577 00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:44,230 memories prior to this event at all my 578 00:22:50,370 --> 00:22:47,440 first memory was literally being tested 579 00:22:55,890 --> 00:22:50,380 in this hospital for ESP what was called 580 00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:55,900 ESP and so just stating that to you 581 00:23:02,040 --> 00:22:58,720 tells me that my mom always knew that 582 00:23:03,390 --> 00:23:02,050 there was something highly unusual about 583 00:23:14,730 --> 00:23:03,400 me 584 00:23:16,590 --> 00:23:14,740 and then ultimately as I said I've never 585 00:23:19,860 --> 00:23:16,600 had an interest in any of this area 586 00:23:22,050 --> 00:23:19,870 whatsoever when it comes to anything 587 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:22,060 science fiction or space other than the 588 00:23:28,590 --> 00:23:24,010 beauty of the Stars but I mean I 589 00:23:30,990 --> 00:23:28,600 literally avoided almost I hate you you 590 00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:31,000 know keep trying to explain what I can't 591 00:23:38,190 --> 00:23:34,240 explain but I just I think I want I seem 592 00:23:42,030 --> 00:23:38,200 to have a void in me about that area so 593 00:23:45,930 --> 00:23:42,040 I do do you remember at all any of the 594 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:45,940 TSP tests that they were conducting on 595 00:23:51,780 --> 00:23:49,690 you or is it a memory that that you 596 00:23:54,570 --> 00:23:51,790 remember or is it a memory that your 597 00:23:58,770 --> 00:23:54,580 mother may have told you that sort of 598 00:24:06,180 --> 00:23:58,780 was was planted in there do you ever 599 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:06,190 think about that or I absolutely it is 600 00:24:12,270 --> 00:24:09,130 acute this memory is acute for me 601 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:12,280 because again prior to this it's as if I 602 00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:15,970 woke up at you know somewhere between 603 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:18,310 eight and nine years old it prior to 604 00:24:24,180 --> 00:24:21,730 that there is no memory and there are 605 00:24:25,860 --> 00:24:24,190 also no childhood in terms of baby 606 00:24:28,410 --> 00:24:25,870 pictures of me I've never seen a 607 00:24:31,049 --> 00:24:28,420 photo of myself at the baby my photos 608 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:31,059 don't start until I'm too did you can 609 00:24:35,790 --> 00:24:33,010 you ever actually wore a baby or did you 610 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:35,800 come out of two years old you know I've 611 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:38,770 always suggested possibly matched he's 612 00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:41,710 right you know it's difficult because my 613 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:44,559 mom has sense crossed over and she was 614 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:49,290 really my only family member that I had 615 00:24:53,850 --> 00:24:51,610 contact with throughout my life there 616 00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:53,860 were various times but very brief did I 617 00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:56,590 ever need any other family members so 618 00:25:02,940 --> 00:24:59,679 but the memory is as I said acute and it 619 00:25:07,049 --> 00:25:02,950 is me sitting in this hospital room lab 620 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:07,059 kind of environment with adults wearing 621 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:12,130 lab coats all white and sterile and I'm 622 00:25:19,290 --> 00:25:16,290 being tested with I think maybe called 623 00:25:21,780 --> 00:25:19,300 flashcards oh there are no cards with 624 00:25:26,250 --> 00:25:21,790 the different symbols on them right 625 00:25:28,890 --> 00:25:26,260 right yeah I'm not very Brittney that's 626 00:25:33,299 --> 00:25:28,900 that's really interesting do you do you 627 00:25:35,220 --> 00:25:33,309 feel that deep down you are and and if 628 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:35,230 this feels too personal you don't have 629 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:37,570 to answer it at all but do you feel that 630 00:25:44,910 --> 00:25:40,450 you are more than more than human that's 631 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:44,920 at points is it do you ever get that 632 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:46,690 feeling and you don't have to answer 633 00:25:54,510 --> 00:25:52,690 that if you don't want to but right you 634 00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:54,520 know I don't know how to answer that in 635 00:25:59,930 --> 00:25:57,520 all honesty we've given almost maybe too 636 00:26:04,470 --> 00:25:59,940 much thought to it throughout my life 637 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:04,480 just with such confusion lots of mystery 638 00:26:09,270 --> 00:26:06,250 in my world that I can't get answers 639 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:09,280 here so ultimately to keep it from it 640 00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:10,809 just being about me because this 641 00:26:16,250 --> 00:26:12,640 certainly isn't 642 00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:16,260 I seemed it as I said started off life 643 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:19,809 strange mom would call me strange but 644 00:26:24,990 --> 00:26:21,130 you know I didn't know if that was just 645 00:26:26,820 --> 00:26:25,000 because she was upset with me or 646 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:26,830 whatever the case may be my mom always 647 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:28,690 seems to be aware of the fact that I had 648 00:26:33,390 --> 00:26:30,850 these extra senses 649 00:26:35,550 --> 00:26:33,400 she was always pleased with that also I 650 00:26:38,580 --> 00:26:35,560 might add but it was something that I 651 00:26:39,810 --> 00:26:38,590 felt extremely embarrassed about I never 652 00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:39,820 saw myself there 653 00:26:44,910 --> 00:26:42,400 as people might use the terms gifted or 654 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:44,920 so on and so forth I had a lot of 655 00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:49,210 problems with being me growing up well 656 00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:52,240 you you obviously have very high 657 00:26:57,900 --> 00:26:55,120 intelligence and it you can just hear it 658 00:26:59,670 --> 00:26:57,910 with the way that you speak and you know 659 00:27:01,980 --> 00:26:59,680 the first email when you reached out to 660 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:01,990 us at truth funders I could tell right 661 00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:05,590 away that and and I think it's it's what 662 00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:11,140 separates your and Chad's story is is 663 00:27:17,580 --> 00:27:14,320 your ability to articulate it so well 664 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:17,590 and and and the way you speak it's it's 665 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:20,290 very very intelligent so that that's 666 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:22,570 obvious it to me you know that you were 667 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:25,510 you're a very bright child and I can 668 00:27:32,220 --> 00:27:29,410 definitely see that when when do you 669 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:32,230 feel that you and and Chad or how did 670 00:27:37,140 --> 00:27:33,970 you and Chad coming into the mix 671 00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:37,150 together and if I'm skipping anything 672 00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:39,460 please let me know and we can go back 673 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:43,840 but how was Chad involved was with 674 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:47,130 things and and how did you two meet 675 00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:49,810 well Chad's still acknowledging he'd 676 00:27:54,420 --> 00:27:52,000 like me to continue just for another 677 00:27:57,060 --> 00:27:54,430 moment and I was certainly well for 678 00:28:00,150 --> 00:27:57,070 himself and I love for Chad to share his 679 00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:00,160 you know his take on all of this but 680 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:04,060 essentially in 1990 I'm 33 at the time 681 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:06,370 never married no children nor did I have 682 00:28:12,750 --> 00:28:11,050 any interest in either it happened to be 683 00:28:16,910 --> 00:28:12,760 Valentine's Day and this is going to 684 00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:16,920 sound like a strange romantic story but 685 00:28:24,090 --> 00:28:20,320 simple essentially I had a new job in a 686 00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:24,100 medical field that I was not happy with 687 00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:27,360 at all I was real uncomfortable in this 688 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:30,820 this new job setting and I was on the 689 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:34,210 verge of deciding to get out of it and 690 00:28:38,430 --> 00:28:36,010 it so happened that about the time I'm 691 00:28:41,310 --> 00:28:38,440 ready to quit this young guy that I 692 00:28:43,140 --> 00:28:41,320 worked with named David if I said 693 00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:43,150 Valentine's Day he couldn't stand the 694 00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:45,670 thought that I didn't have a date and he 695 00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:48,910 took it upon himself to try to arrange a 696 00:28:53,650 --> 00:28:51,910 blind date for me against my will he 697 00:28:55,510 --> 00:28:53,660 makes a phone call right 698 00:28:57,550 --> 00:28:55,520 of me and he's talking to this guy on 699 00:28:59,860 --> 00:28:57,560 the other end of the phone and I could 700 00:29:01,390 --> 00:28:59,870 actually tell by the one-sided 701 00:29:03,250 --> 00:29:01,400 conversation that whoever he was 702 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:03,260 speaking to seemed to be really 703 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:05,690 interested in this date but couldn't 704 00:29:09,010 --> 00:29:07,130 make the date because he had to work 705 00:29:13,780 --> 00:29:09,020 that evening he worked in a restaurant 706 00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:13,790 and so by the time this all got spoke 707 00:29:19,330 --> 00:29:17,120 about and David hangs up the phone I'm 708 00:29:20,770 --> 00:29:19,340 real befuddled at this point because you 709 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:20,780 know you can't make me happy I don't 710 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:22,370 want a blind date this doesn't seem like 711 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:24,770 I can get a blind date so you know here 712 00:29:30,940 --> 00:29:27,890 we go and that didn't set my mood off 713 00:29:34,450 --> 00:29:30,950 very well anyway so I'm in a real foul 714 00:29:37,870 --> 00:29:34,460 mood and kind of just things like you 715 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:37,880 can't please me and so as it would stand 716 00:29:42,670 --> 00:29:39,650 to try to speed the story up a little 717 00:29:44,740 --> 00:29:42,680 bit there's no doubt to me now there's a 718 00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:44,750 lot to the story and it will take a lot 719 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:47,120 of time to go into all the explanation 720 00:29:52,150 --> 00:29:50,050 but there is absolutely no doubt to me 721 00:29:57,130 --> 00:29:52,160 specifically that Jan and I were 722 00:30:01,200 --> 00:29:57,140 arranged on Valentine 1990 by beings 723 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:01,210 that presented themselves in human form 724 00:30:10,810 --> 00:30:06,110 that were men they appeared as men but 725 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:10,820 they were extremely handsome almost too 726 00:30:18,340 --> 00:30:13,370 handsome they look like they look like 727 00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:18,350 models and they they made sure in in a 728 00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:20,720 very large city little rock at the time 729 00:30:25,870 --> 00:30:23,120 was several hundred thousand so we're 730 00:30:27,670 --> 00:30:25,880 not talking a small farm town there's 731 00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:27,680 just no doubt to me that they made sure 732 00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:31,520 that I would end up in a location it 733 00:30:38,860 --> 00:30:34,310 happened to be a large sports bar that I 734 00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:38,870 had never been to before but I end up in 735 00:30:47,380 --> 00:30:43,520 this location and before Valentine's is 736 00:30:49,810 --> 00:30:47,390 over with this young man walks up to me 737 00:30:52,570 --> 00:30:49,820 I'm sitting alone at the bar I'm in a 738 00:30:54,580 --> 00:30:52,580 really really foul mood and I just keep 739 00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:54,590 accenting that because my mood was so 740 00:31:01,420 --> 00:30:56,960 poor I would have never walked up to me 741 00:31:05,380 --> 00:31:01,430 and spoke it's amazing - how when you're 742 00:31:09,550 --> 00:31:05,390 in that kind of a mood you know it kind 743 00:31:12,030 --> 00:31:09,560 of exudes from you and and it's really 744 00:31:15,610 --> 00:31:12,040 hard to change that that sort of a mood 745 00:31:18,490 --> 00:31:15,620 and it also rubs off on people that that 746 00:31:22,030 --> 00:31:18,500 you're around you know that can that can 747 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:22,040 really happen and extremely out of 748 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:23,930 character for me I might add also 749 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:26,930 because I'm generally a happy soul when 750 00:31:30,730 --> 00:31:28,730 it comes to being out in public around 751 00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:30,740 people and I've been very good 752 00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:32,240 throughout my life to try to keep my 753 00:31:37,180 --> 00:31:34,640 sour mood to myself but not on this 754 00:31:39,370 --> 00:31:37,190 night and so to me that's important to 755 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:39,380 the story as well is because I was so 756 00:31:45,790 --> 00:31:42,110 out of character and this young man 757 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:45,800 walks up and and essentially you've 758 00:31:52,390 --> 00:31:49,850 targeted mark I I switch just like that 759 00:31:56,650 --> 00:31:52,400 I mean I went from this woman foul mood 760 00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:56,660 to joyous to be speaking to this guy and 761 00:32:01,780 --> 00:31:59,360 he asked me to go play pinball and I 762 00:32:03,610 --> 00:32:01,790 hate that game I hate it you know and 763 00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:03,620 the mood I was then I started to be real 764 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:06,260 ugly about it but as soon as I saw in 765 00:32:12,930 --> 00:32:08,450 his little face and his blue eyes and a 766 00:32:15,310 --> 00:32:12,940 big smile and so on I changed instantly 767 00:32:16,750 --> 00:32:15,320 also why do you hate pinball I don't 768 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:16,760 ever been a person that hates timbo I 769 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:17,810 have to know the answer to that real 770 00:32:24,250 --> 00:32:22,150 quick one in the world and that's me 771 00:32:25,780 --> 00:32:24,260 like the lights and the sounds the whole 772 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:25,790 thing just irritating that's funny oh 773 00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:27,050 good you are 774 00:32:32,530 --> 00:32:29,860 maybe I got issues with lights and 775 00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:32,540 jingles and things I'm not sure but 776 00:32:36,550 --> 00:32:34,910 Japan isn't lost Vegas Oh too soon 777 00:32:38,860 --> 00:32:36,560 meeting the slot machines in Walden you 778 00:32:44,110 --> 00:32:38,870 know I don't that's so interesting you 779 00:32:45,490 --> 00:32:44,120 know it so well I don't everything is 780 00:32:47,530 --> 00:32:45,500 energy and there just must be certain 781 00:32:50,770 --> 00:32:47,540 frequencies that just turn you off and 782 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:50,780 in you know Chad's understandably turned 783 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:54,410 you on in such a way that it just well 784 00:33:00,430 --> 00:32:57,290 while we're playing pinball we get 785 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:00,440 around to names and my name is Alger and 786 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:03,650 of course jad and you know he reminds me 787 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:06,410 he's like just as much shocked as I'm in 788 00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:09,290 because it is Chad that David tried to 789 00:33:13,030 --> 00:33:11,360 arrange with that blind date earlier in 790 00:33:15,490 --> 00:33:13,040 the day and Chad couldn't make the date 791 00:33:17,650 --> 00:33:15,500 because he was working and so what's 792 00:33:19,810 --> 00:33:17,660 real crazy about the story on top of 793 00:33:22,419 --> 00:33:19,820 everything is that chair 794 00:33:24,999 --> 00:33:22,429 came over to this sports bar with guys 795 00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:25,009 he worked with after they had done you 796 00:33:28,509 --> 00:33:27,769 know with their evening duties at the 797 00:33:30,460 --> 00:33:28,519 restaurant 798 00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:30,470 and he'd never been in this location 799 00:33:35,549 --> 00:33:33,049 before either so this was the first time 800 00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:35,559 for both of us you know again it's 801 00:33:40,029 --> 00:33:37,039 bizarre 802 00:33:42,099 --> 00:33:40,039 deep down creepy in many ways to me and 803 00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:42,109 quite beautiful all on the same mix 804 00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:44,720 because it was in no time we figured out 805 00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:46,129 we were the blind date that didn't 806 00:33:55,629 --> 00:33:52,419 essentially if I may then just a move 807 00:33:58,389 --> 00:33:55,639 beyond that for times sake within 24 808 00:34:00,759 --> 00:33:58,399 hours of meeting Chad we discover that 809 00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:00,769 Chad's grandfather who had crossed over 810 00:34:06,460 --> 00:34:04,369 by the time I met Chad a Chad million is 811 00:34:09,730 --> 00:34:06,470 Pappa of course and the world knew him 812 00:34:14,289 --> 00:34:09,740 as George the Chad is reminded by his 813 00:34:16,359 --> 00:34:14,299 mother that his grandfather's birth name 814 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:16,369 that happens to be on his tombstone it's 815 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:19,490 out of the famous line Wow that way I 816 00:34:22,270 --> 00:34:21,290 want to pause you right there because we 817 00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:22,280 need to take a quick break we're 818 00:34:26,049 --> 00:34:24,049 actually a little bit behind so you're 819 00:34:27,339 --> 00:34:26,059 listening to thunders radio here on the 820 00:34:28,809 --> 00:34:27,349 in September you network we're joined by 821 00:34:30,789 --> 00:34:28,819 Elton and Chad talking about high 822 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:30,799 strangeness and they're just incredibly 823 00:34:33,700 --> 00:34:32,450 bizarre life we've so much want to get 824 00:34:34,899 --> 00:34:33,710 into we're going to take a quick break 825 00:34:42,039 --> 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radio network you 896 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:18,910 are listening to two thunders radio on 897 00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:20,410 the inception radio network my name is 898 00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:22,390 art Webb I'm joined by March warts we 899 00:38:27,420 --> 00:38:24,640 are on the phone or on the line I guess 900 00:38:29,550 --> 00:38:27,430 you would say with Chad and Alton we had 901 00:38:31,260 --> 00:38:29,560 to interrupt also story to get into our 902 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:31,270 break but I want to pick it right back 903 00:38:36,210 --> 00:38:33,850 up where we left off and that was that 904 00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:36,220 Chad's grandfather was actually named 905 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:42,460 Alton that's right so the grandfather we 906 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:45,330 discovered his first name is Alta and 907 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:48,670 his last name is Duncan and that happens 908 00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:51,010 to be my mom's last thing oh wow 909 00:38:57,870 --> 00:38:54,640 synchronicity geez yeah right and also 910 00:38:59,940 --> 00:38:57,880 synchronicity so and some people might 911 00:39:04,080 --> 00:38:59,950 think this is this is a bit strange I 912 00:39:07,770 --> 00:39:04,090 was going to mention off air Alton Chad 913 00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:07,780 that my so my fiancee I'm getting 914 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:11,860 married in May May 30th and my fiancee 915 00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:15,250 her her father's name is Mark and I'm 916 00:39:21,210 --> 00:39:17,830 named mark I'm mark as well so it's a 917 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:21,220 another strange name coincidence or a 918 00:39:26,850 --> 00:39:24,610 synchronistic thing my grandfather and I 919 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:26,860 had the same name ourselves how's that 920 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:29,710 from weird yo you're a junior aren't you 921 00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:31,330 art no I'm not a junior it's to be 922 00:39:42,750 --> 00:39:40,000 generation if I might add my mother's 923 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:42,760 father's name is art that I never had a 924 00:39:47,490 --> 00:39:45,610 chance this is the old town the city 925 00:39:51,060 --> 00:39:47,500 moments here in truth funders radio that 926 00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:51,070 is pretty cool and so did you guys learn 927 00:39:54,210 --> 00:39:53,110 all of this like on that particular 928 00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:54,220 evening when you were playing pinball 929 00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:56,220 are these just things that kind of 930 00:40:00,270 --> 00:39:58,240 started showing themselves and 931 00:40:03,540 --> 00:40:00,280 blossoming to you over the years as you 932 00:40:06,750 --> 00:40:03,550 went on well we learned literally learn 933 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:06,760 the name game if you will within 24 934 00:40:13,530 --> 00:40:10,930 hours of meeting we like I said my mood 935 00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:13,540 changed instantly and I just enjoyed 936 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:16,900 being with Chad and he was he's funny 937 00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:19,510 he's he's various 938 00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:21,520 attentive and all the things the girls 939 00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:25,360 like you know Chad presents and so I 940 00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:27,910 didn't want the evening to stop and nor 941 00:40:33,260 --> 00:40:31,710 did he and he invites me home and 942 00:40:36,570 --> 00:40:33,270 evening 943 00:40:38,940 --> 00:40:36,580 that's right we base well we were apart 944 00:40:41,370 --> 00:40:38,950 for three months because I ran she hid 945 00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:41,380 from me yeah I was scared its James when 946 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:44,230 I learned about me yeah I was when I 947 00:40:48,510 --> 00:40:46,450 learned about the name something 948 00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:48,520 triggered inside of me and it just 949 00:40:53,340 --> 00:40:51,430 frightened me so bad you don't that's 950 00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:53,350 exactly why you were so turned off to 951 00:40:56,010 --> 00:40:54,760 things when you were younger as well is 952 00:40:57,780 --> 00:40:56,020 because there was just an underlying 953 00:40:59,130 --> 00:40:57,790 fear of not wanting to face it and deal 954 00:41:03,330 --> 00:40:59,140 with it because it was such a prevalent 955 00:41:06,540 --> 00:41:03,340 part of your personality very likely you 956 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:06,550 know again I've given lots of thought to 957 00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:09,250 Who I am and what's going on and I had 958 00:41:15,810 --> 00:41:11,230 this you know I have there's so much I 959 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:15,820 have no answers for but within that 24 960 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:19,290 hours of discovering the main connection 961 00:41:25,050 --> 00:41:22,630 Chad had no idea I guess I played a role 962 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:25,060 of my life and I had him convinced that 963 00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:27,850 we'd be seeing each other soon to follow 964 00:41:33,570 --> 00:41:31,150 and you know another date and so on and 965 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:33,580 and as he said for three months I hid 966 00:41:40,170 --> 00:41:37,090 where we he couldn't find me because I 967 00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:40,180 was just too afraid and so much of this 968 00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:42,310 I can't give you explanation for just 969 00:41:47,070 --> 00:41:45,310 telling it's interesting also because I 970 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:47,080 can relate with you and in such a way 971 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:49,810 that is so much the exact same with the 972 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:50,770 relationship that I have with my wife 973 00:41:55,770 --> 00:41:52,690 except for she hid from me for 12 years 974 00:41:57,870 --> 00:41:55,780 so that it was it was a little bit of an 975 00:41:59,310 --> 00:41:57,880 extended hiding but I know exactly what 976 00:42:00,300 --> 00:41:59,320 you mean and I can totally relate as I'm 977 00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:00,310 sure there are others out there who 978 00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:02,590 experience it as well I do because we 979 00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:03,910 are kind of short on time here I kinda 980 00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:05,710 want to fast-forward to your guys's 981 00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:08,110 first UFO experience in 95 and what what 982 00:42:13,110 --> 00:42:11,110 exactly went down with that perfect 983 00:42:15,090 --> 00:42:13,120 because Chad has a wonderful voice and 984 00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:15,100 he's about to pick it up with the 95 985 00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:20,560 event well first off I wanted to say you 986 00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:23,680 know when Elton I did look uh you know 987 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:25,510 one of the things that she did tell me 988 00:42:33,450 --> 00:42:30,610 is when she was little that she was told 989 00:42:36,839 --> 00:42:33,460 by spirit or 990 00:42:38,609 --> 00:42:36,849 whatever that you know we would you know 991 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:38,619 she would never have children we would 992 00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:40,450 never have children and is that okay 993 00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:43,359 with me and I'm like yeah and she goes I 994 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:45,849 was told that I 995 00:42:52,410 --> 00:42:48,730 I will never mother my own but I will 996 00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:52,420 mother many so you know with with that 997 00:42:58,380 --> 00:42:54,790 said you know with what she she died and 998 00:43:03,140 --> 00:42:58,390 everything it's kind of comes to you 999 00:43:09,329 --> 00:43:03,150 know in the turn the path so anyway in 1000 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:09,339 1995 we moved to Hammond Louisiana we we 1001 00:43:13,770 --> 00:43:11,770 live right outside of him and we decided 1002 00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:13,780 they were going to go in in town for 1003 00:43:17,790 --> 00:43:15,190 dinner 1004 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:17,800 this was it was still pretty wide 1005 00:43:26,730 --> 00:43:22,450 outside early in the evening we're 1006 00:43:29,579 --> 00:43:26,740 driving in to the to the right of us is 1007 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:29,589 this group of trees in this bend in the 1008 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:32,530 road and back behind this group trees is 1009 00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:35,890 the local Walmart so we get around this 1010 00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:38,310 group of trees and we look up and 1011 00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,670 there's this craft in the sky and again 1012 00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:44,560 it's there's still pretty light outside 1013 00:43:55,410 --> 00:43:50,550 and this this craft is huge I mean big 1014 00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:55,420 mothership it was bigger than the 1015 00:44:01,380 --> 00:43:58,210 Walmart and Iceland the super-sized 1016 00:44:04,829 --> 00:44:01,390 Walmart and the parking lot combined I 1017 00:44:08,849 --> 00:44:04,839 mean how close were you to it I would 1018 00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:08,859 say it was below cloud level I mean it 1019 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:11,680 was fairly low that or it was just 1020 00:44:19,290 --> 00:44:15,970 really big because I mean it it seemed 1021 00:44:23,070 --> 00:44:19,300 to take up to take up this guy yeah it 1022 00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:23,080 was just huge and was there anyone else 1023 00:44:29,010 --> 00:44:25,510 around or was it just you two in the 1024 00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:29,020 parking lot no now we're we're driving 1025 00:44:34,050 --> 00:44:31,390 on the road okay 1026 00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:34,060 we turned into the parking water and 1027 00:44:38,910 --> 00:44:36,310 they were driving with around us yeah 1028 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:38,920 well other people driving the ramps I 1029 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:41,650 did I did not see anybody you know like 1030 00:44:46,930 --> 00:44:46,570 pulling over or long teracle or well you 1031 00:44:49,390 --> 00:44:46,940 know 1032 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:49,400 what what's interesting you guys is that 1033 00:44:58,030 --> 00:44:54,650 you know what I yeah sometimes I bring 1034 00:45:00,250 --> 00:44:58,040 this up but I saw in the middle middle 1035 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:00,260 of plain plain as day 1036 00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:03,650 I saw a strange object in the sky and it 1037 00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:05,569 was I was sitting in a Kinkos parking 1038 00:45:12,010 --> 00:45:09,200 lot trying to make some copies for work 1039 00:45:14,740 --> 00:45:12,020 and there was nobody around there was 1040 00:45:17,140 --> 00:45:14,750 one woman walking to her car but nobody 1041 00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:17,150 else it's it's interesting you know I I 1042 00:45:21,790 --> 00:45:19,609 really love to hear when if other people 1043 00:45:23,050 --> 00:45:21,800 are there and other people see it or if 1044 00:45:25,089 --> 00:45:23,060 other people are there and they don't 1045 00:45:26,829 --> 00:45:25,099 see it because I've heard it I've heard 1046 00:45:28,990 --> 00:45:26,839 it from both sides 1047 00:45:31,210 --> 00:45:29,000 some people say everyone else around 1048 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:31,220 them has seen what they were seeing and 1049 00:45:35,470 --> 00:45:33,050 other people say that they are the only 1050 00:45:38,740 --> 00:45:35,480 ones who aren't able to see this so I 1051 00:45:41,620 --> 00:45:38,750 wonder if it is an energy or frequency 1052 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:41,630 thing just a random thought but please 1053 00:45:48,220 --> 00:45:43,250 go ahead don't mean to interrupt the 1054 00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:48,230 story yet you know it was kind of a 1055 00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:50,720 rectangle shape that it wasn't as white 1056 00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:53,599 in the front part as it was in the back 1057 00:46:02,440 --> 00:45:58,490 it was fairly I guess smooth you know or 1058 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:02,450 straight you know on the bottom there 1059 00:46:06,490 --> 00:46:04,010 was two or three lights in the front 1060 00:46:09,579 --> 00:46:06,500 three or four lights in the back moving 1061 00:46:14,339 --> 00:46:09,589 so slow it was almost like how could it 1062 00:46:18,370 --> 00:46:14,349 stay in the sky was you know no sound 1063 00:46:21,130 --> 00:46:18,380 if I might add my reaction again seems 1064 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:21,140 to be a theme with me was I must have 1065 00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:23,210 gone into some kind of insane shock 1066 00:46:28,510 --> 00:46:25,849 because I I turned my head away from it 1067 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:28,520 instantly looking at Chad pleading with 1068 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:30,650 Chad violently to tell me that that was 1069 00:46:37,390 --> 00:46:34,970 not there and Chad of course put his 1070 00:46:41,140 --> 00:46:37,400 eyes back on the road and and then Chad 1071 00:46:44,290 --> 00:46:41,150 yeah it was this is this you know I we 1072 00:46:47,290 --> 00:46:44,300 both look at it Alta looks at me I 1073 00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:47,300 looked down at her and we focused our 1074 00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:49,369 attention back to the road and where we 1075 00:46:54,010 --> 00:46:52,160 were going is this to say you know okay 1076 00:46:59,079 --> 00:46:54,020 if we don't pay attention to it if we 1077 00:47:00,579 --> 00:46:59,089 don't think it won't see us and how long 1078 00:47:05,140 --> 00:47:00,589 were you two dating 1079 00:47:09,549 --> 00:47:05,150 when this happened we had married we met 1080 00:47:15,189 --> 00:47:09,559 in 1990 we married in 1991 and this 1081 00:47:17,949 --> 00:47:15,199 happened to us in 1995 okay so before 1082 00:47:20,370 --> 00:47:17,959 cellphones and and photos so obviously 1083 00:47:22,989 --> 00:47:20,380 you know just for the listening audience 1084 00:47:25,089 --> 00:47:22,999 you know I think these days everybody 1085 00:47:27,969 --> 00:47:25,099 says they're they just assumed that 1086 00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:27,979 everybody has a camera and and it's 1087 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:32,089 important to note that in 1995 you know 1088 00:47:34,749 --> 00:47:33,890 unless you had a physical camera in your 1089 00:47:36,999 --> 00:47:34,759 hand 1090 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:37,009 you couldn't just whip out a camera and 1091 00:47:41,019 --> 00:47:38,890 take a picture or something like that 1092 00:47:46,349 --> 00:47:41,029 thank you for that because we've 1093 00:47:49,569 --> 00:47:46,359 actually had an astrophysicist asketh or 1094 00:47:54,370 --> 00:47:49,579 somewhat accusingly why we didn't take 1095 00:47:58,269 --> 00:47:54,380 photos and again as you've just clearly 1096 00:47:59,140 --> 00:47:58,279 indicated well primarily in my case I'm 1097 00:48:00,939 --> 00:47:59,150 in shock 1098 00:48:02,170 --> 00:48:00,949 I'm not interested in seeing it because 1099 00:48:04,959 --> 00:48:02,180 it's worth I'm concerned it was a 1100 00:48:07,539 --> 00:48:04,969 non-event I was trying to I was trying 1101 00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:07,549 to play it off as it didn't happen how 1102 00:48:12,329 --> 00:48:10,160 is this not cognizant enough to recall 1103 00:48:19,150 --> 00:48:12,339 that there were not camera phones before 1104 00:48:22,509 --> 00:48:19,160 same so within within Chad and I went on 1105 00:48:24,939 --> 00:48:22,519 to dinner and never spoke of it 1106 00:48:27,309 --> 00:48:24,949 absolutely never spoke of it nor had any 1107 00:48:30,579 --> 00:48:27,319 intentions of ever speaking about it but 1108 00:48:34,689 --> 00:48:30,589 we discovered the next day that somebody 1109 00:48:36,459 --> 00:48:34,699 that others did report it and so we 1110 00:48:39,309 --> 00:48:36,469 heard of you on the news either on the 1111 00:48:42,219 --> 00:48:39,319 radio or in the paper but others will 1112 00:48:43,749 --> 00:48:42,229 others had reported it so it made it an 1113 00:48:47,769 --> 00:48:43,759 event that as far as we were concerned 1114 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:47,779 didn't happen and we still chose to stay 1115 00:48:53,919 --> 00:48:51,170 in denial about it and alta has done a 1116 00:48:58,539 --> 00:48:53,929 little bit of research in in that Hanan 1117 00:49:01,509 --> 00:48:58,549 area in it has had quite a few reports 1118 00:49:06,370 --> 00:49:01,519 of crafting with knives 1119 00:49:08,439 --> 00:49:06,380 since the forties yeah I think there are 1120 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:08,449 just you know a lot of locations like 1121 00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:12,650 that that they're hubs that that you 1122 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:15,680 know a lot of people seem to 1123 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:18,170 see things throughout time in one 1124 00:49:23,050 --> 00:49:20,690 particular area you know one one example 1125 00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:23,060 is and I know that you guys will get to 1126 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:24,680 it but your experience in the French 1127 00:49:30,370 --> 00:49:27,290 Quarter in New Orleans when I was 1128 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:30,380 posting about you both coming on the 1129 00:49:35,980 --> 00:49:33,290 show yesterday I went online and I was 1130 00:49:38,140 --> 00:49:35,990 looking at some of the the French 1131 00:49:40,210 --> 00:49:38,150 Quarter UFO sightings and there's been a 1132 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:40,220 ton of them and in fact on Facebook I 1133 00:49:46,810 --> 00:49:43,970 posted a news must have been like 1134 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:46,820 channel 6 news or something like that of 1135 00:49:51,070 --> 00:49:49,130 someone reporting a UFO in the French 1136 00:49:53,020 --> 00:49:51,080 Quarter and I think it was pretty close 1137 00:49:55,180 --> 00:49:53,030 to where you guys were as well so you 1138 00:49:57,370 --> 00:49:55,190 you Santa you know you're on the road 1139 00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:57,380 right now you're traveling and the 1140 00:50:00,850 --> 00:49:58,970 audience might not know that but you 1141 00:50:05,770 --> 00:50:00,860 you're traveling throughout the south 1142 00:50:08,260 --> 00:50:05,780 and you seem to constantly hit the the 1143 00:50:11,410 --> 00:50:08,270 hotspots you just I don't know if you're 1144 00:50:13,450 --> 00:50:11,420 naturally drawn to them or if it's if 1145 00:50:18,070 --> 00:50:13,460 you wind up there on purpose for some 1146 00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:18,080 reasons exactly we're not sure of any of 1147 00:50:24,070 --> 00:50:21,280 these kinds of answers either we're just 1148 00:50:26,890 --> 00:50:24,080 we're just living life and trying to 1149 00:50:30,430 --> 00:50:26,900 follow my intention has always been to 1150 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:30,440 try to find others you since the event 1151 00:50:35,620 --> 00:50:32,930 in 97 where Chad and I could no longer 1152 00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:35,630 be asleep about any of this because that 1153 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:38,240 changed everything in 97 I want to talk 1154 00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:39,890 about 97 but I do want to say very 1155 00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:41,510 quickly because it just hit me that I 1156 00:50:45,180 --> 00:50:43,250 think one of the things that makes your 1157 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:45,190 guys's stories so compelling and so 1158 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:47,330 worthy of attention and honestly 1159 00:50:53,140 --> 00:50:49,970 believable incredible is that fact that 1160 00:50:56,530 --> 00:50:53,150 you're so committed to making sure that 1161 00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:56,540 you say and state that you don't know 1162 00:50:59,620 --> 00:50:58,400 the answers to anything you don't know 1163 00:51:00,820 --> 00:50:59,630 you do that I can't answer 1164 00:51:03,420 --> 00:51:00,830 I don't know I don't know I don't know I 1165 00:51:06,010 --> 00:51:03,430 don't know and your willingness to not 1166 00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,020 exaggerate or fabricate or fill in gaps 1167 00:51:10,570 --> 00:51:08,000 is something that I think is both 1168 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:10,580 admirable and worthy of acknowledgement 1169 00:51:15,370 --> 00:51:12,530 because that that is to me what draws me 1170 00:51:17,650 --> 00:51:15,380 to your story it just seems so real to 1171 00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:17,660 me and we we talk about that all the 1172 00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:21,680 time on the show malte and Chad how you 1173 00:51:27,460 --> 00:51:24,710 know if we go and see people give talks 1174 00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:27,470 when someone's preaching the whole time 1175 00:51:30,580 --> 00:51:27,920 saying 1176 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:30,590 this is how it is and and this is the 1177 00:51:35,830 --> 00:51:32,690 way you should believe and this is you 1178 00:51:38,020 --> 00:51:35,840 know the answer it's very it's a big 1179 00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:38,030 turn-off and it's very distasteful and 1180 00:51:42,580 --> 00:51:40,250 there's so many different ways it could 1181 00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:42,590 potentially be or different answers that 1182 00:51:48,070 --> 00:51:44,720 are out there so it is refreshing as art 1183 00:51:50,860 --> 00:51:48,080 says to to hear you you talk about your 1184 00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,870 experiences and and it's so kind of you 1185 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:52,880 to share them with the world because a 1186 00:51:57,370 --> 00:51:54,890 lot of people are afraid to do that and 1187 00:51:59,260 --> 00:51:57,380 and the fact that you say that you don't 1188 00:52:03,040 --> 00:51:59,270 know the answers but this is what you 1189 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:03,050 are going through so so I I would agree 1190 00:52:11,290 --> 00:52:08,570 with art there one of our favorite 1191 00:52:15,310 --> 00:52:11,300 things is the more we learn the more we 1192 00:52:18,430 --> 00:52:15,320 don't know you know it's just you know 1193 00:52:21,730 --> 00:52:18,440 it's just so big for for people to say 1194 00:52:27,450 --> 00:52:21,740 this is the truth until they land in you 1195 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:27,460 know in whatever they come or wherever 1196 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:30,410 whatever you know until that that 1197 00:52:35,530 --> 00:52:32,930 happens you know I don't believe anybody 1198 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:35,540 has the answer and there might be more 1199 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:39,170 than one I think that's much closer to 1200 00:52:43,450 --> 00:52:42,050 it then than the previous statement I 1201 00:52:45,340 --> 00:52:43,460 think it's there's more than one answer 1202 00:52:47,830 --> 00:52:45,350 and I don't think there are physical 1203 00:52:49,930 --> 00:52:47,840 bodies or brains can quite comprehend 1204 00:52:51,370 --> 00:52:49,940 all of it that's part of the point of us 1205 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:51,380 being here is you're not supposed to 1206 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:52,490 comprehend it and how we're supposed to 1207 00:52:57,070 --> 00:52:54,050 grow through it but before we get to the 1208 00:52:59,080 --> 00:52:57,080 1997 stuff how did the encounter in 95 1209 00:53:02,800 --> 00:52:59,090 end I mean was it just you guys looking 1210 00:53:04,660 --> 00:53:02,810 at each other going well I okay I write 1211 00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:04,670 great and then moving on or did was a 1212 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:06,800 lot of discussion about it and it was 1213 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:08,450 something that stuck with you in the 1214 00:53:15,340 --> 00:53:12,530 months following right yeah it was like 1215 00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:15,350 we had no discussion about it we we 1216 00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:18,590 never discussed and we rehearsed a 1217 00:53:23,260 --> 00:53:20,480 little thing on either the radio or 1218 00:53:24,970 --> 00:53:23,270 newspaper the next day we're like okay 1219 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:24,980 we're not crazy but that was yes you 1220 00:53:29,050 --> 00:53:26,210 know we were never going to talk about 1221 00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:29,060 it and we paid in if not if that was the 1222 00:53:32,860 --> 00:53:31,250 only event that ever happened to us we 1223 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:32,870 probably would have never spoke about it 1224 00:53:37,540 --> 00:53:35,530 no we never would have spoke about it 1225 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:37,550 that's interesting because I feel like 1226 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:39,050 if I were in that position I would be 1227 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:40,130 talking about it for weeks and weeks 1228 00:53:44,050 --> 00:53:41,890 afterwards and the fact that you guys 1229 00:53:47,890 --> 00:53:44,060 consciously or subconsciously rather 1230 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:47,900 both I repelled away from it is in sort 1231 00:53:50,890 --> 00:53:49,610 of a fear of you know discussing it 1232 00:53:52,930 --> 00:53:50,900 because who knows where this 1233 00:53:54,550 --> 00:53:52,940 conversation might lead just it's it's 1234 00:53:57,550 --> 00:53:54,560 really interesting in the fact that you 1235 00:53:59,890 --> 00:53:57,560 took so long and your time together to 1236 00:54:01,120 --> 00:53:59,900 actually get to starting to develop 1237 00:54:03,310 --> 00:54:01,130 these conversations and then now to 1238 00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:03,320 where you're at being on you know I are 1239 00:54:09,550 --> 00:54:04,910 in Andrews really you're talking about 1240 00:54:14,260 --> 00:54:09,560 it that's that's just insane to me right 1241 00:54:16,690 --> 00:54:14,270 it's just so it's just mind-blowing 1242 00:54:23,580 --> 00:54:16,700 yeah there's no mind blowing our grains 1243 00:54:26,110 --> 00:54:23,590 exploded another thing years later in 1244 00:54:27,340 --> 00:54:26,120 2000 when I when I hooked back up with 1245 00:54:30,670 --> 00:54:27,350 my father 1246 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:30,680 I'm sitting and I'm telling them telling 1247 00:54:37,090 --> 00:54:33,890 my dad and my stepmother and two other 1248 00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:37,100 people that were around there you know 1249 00:54:41,950 --> 00:54:39,680 about this what we had seen there in 1250 00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:41,960 Hammond because they had lived there 1251 00:54:50,170 --> 00:54:45,920 before so they knew the area and but 1252 00:54:53,110 --> 00:54:50,180 they my stepmother tells me she says you 1253 00:54:55,930 --> 00:54:53,120 know I gotta tell you something sue she 1254 00:54:59,830 --> 00:54:55,940 says your dad and I go down to Cameroon 1255 00:55:02,250 --> 00:54:59,840 for the millenium to you know celebrate 1256 00:55:05,410 --> 00:55:02,260 the new in the new year the new 1257 00:55:08,590 --> 00:55:05,420 millennium and they get down to the 1258 00:55:10,210 --> 00:55:08,600 beach and they decide to you know 1259 00:55:10,660 --> 00:55:10,220 they're gonna watch the fireworks at 1260 00:55:15,310 --> 00:55:10,670 night 1261 00:55:18,070 --> 00:55:15,320 well the lights from the hotel was 1262 00:55:20,140 --> 00:55:18,080 really interfering with the fireworks so 1263 00:55:21,970 --> 00:55:20,150 they decided to move up the cove 1264 00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:21,980 a little bit where it was a little 1265 00:55:27,220 --> 00:55:24,710 darker so they get their chairs and they 1266 00:55:30,130 --> 00:55:27,230 spit up and they set their chairs up 1267 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:30,140 underneath or down below what they 1268 00:55:36,490 --> 00:55:34,370 called the Temple of the Puma they said 1269 00:55:40,180 --> 00:55:36,500 they sit down and as soon as they sit 1270 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:40,190 down they hear this big cat scream so 1271 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:43,130 that kind of freaks him out they focus 1272 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:45,050 their attention back to the sky and 1273 00:55:49,660 --> 00:55:47,810 watching the firework and she said that 1274 00:55:52,540 --> 00:55:49,670 as they were watching the firework they 1275 00:55:55,660 --> 00:55:52,550 could see this craft in the sky and they 1276 00:56:00,039 --> 00:55:55,670 she said that it found it exactly 1277 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:00,049 each side is exactly the way that I said 1278 00:56:05,849 --> 00:56:03,770 and I'm wondering if there's if there's 1279 00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:05,859 any anyone out there listening right now 1280 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:08,720 if you've had an experience and you've 1281 00:56:14,020 --> 00:56:12,290 seen what Chad and Alta have seen go 1282 00:56:17,049 --> 00:56:14,030 ahead and give us a call and the number 1283 00:56:19,930 --> 00:56:17,059 to call is eight eight eight nine one 1284 00:56:24,430 --> 00:56:19,940 nine two three five five if you have 1285 00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:24,440 seen a similar craft in the sky we'd 1286 00:56:28,059 --> 00:56:26,089 love to hear about it or if you just 1287 00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:28,069 want to ask a question to either outside 1288 00:56:30,819 --> 00:56:29,510 or chat I mean they're they're both 1289 00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:30,829 personalities in their own right that 1290 00:56:34,329 --> 00:56:32,510 are were they have questions I ate at 1291 00:56:35,770 --> 00:56:34,339 eight nine one nine two three five five 1292 00:56:37,210 --> 00:56:35,780 is the telephone number I want to take a 1293 00:56:39,339 --> 00:56:37,220 quick pause because this seems like a 1294 00:56:40,809 --> 00:56:39,349 great place to take a stop down and take 1295 00:56:42,130 --> 00:56:40,819 a quick break because we need to do that 1296 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:42,140 when we get back we're gonna talk about 1297 00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:43,490 nineteen ninety seven and we're gonna 1298 00:56:48,339 --> 00:56:45,440 get into the blossoming of the high 1299 00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:48,349 strangeness and what has led Chad Alta 1300 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:50,270 here today you're listening to truth 1301 00:56:53,530 --> 00:56:51,530 thunders radio here on the inception 1302 00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:53,540 radio network my name is art Webb I am 1303 00:56:58,299 --> 00:56:55,609 joined by Mark Schwartz he's the CEO and 1304 00:57:00,160 --> 00:56:58,309 host chattin Alta we'll be having a 1305 00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:00,170 truth thunders campaign to discuss and 1306 00:57:03,819 --> 00:57:02,089 we will probably touch on that towards 1307 00:57:05,470 --> 00:57:03,829 the end of the program but it will be 1308 00:57:06,789 --> 00:57:05,480 alive until next week when they join us 1309 00:57:09,010 --> 00:57:06,799 back on the show 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01:01:08,800 wonder what's gonna happen and I will 1393 01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:09,910 sit there and listen until something 1394 01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:13,510 does there's also a program called dead 1395 01:01:18,420 --> 01:01:15,280 air at least there was for a long time 1396 01:01:20,609 --> 01:01:18,430 which was live Grateful Dead shows every 1397 01:01:22,230 --> 01:01:20,619 Saturday night really courses such as 1398 01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:22,240 the night you know we've never talked 1399 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:23,440 about the dead but now that you just 1400 01:01:28,740 --> 01:01:24,970 bring that up I bet you're such a dead 1401 01:01:29,790 --> 01:01:28,750 head yeah we know I want to talk to Chad 1402 01:01:31,530 --> 01:01:29,800 Nelson we only got about thirty minutes 1403 01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:31,540 left eight eight eight nine one nine two 1404 01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:33,760 three five five eight nine one nine two 1405 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:35,710 three five five Chad and altar Diller 1406 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:37,690 are our guests here on truth thunders 1407 01:01:43,710 --> 01:01:40,330 radio and as we get into the last half 1408 01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:43,720 of the show here we're gonna discuss 1409 01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:45,520 about the events that happened in 1997 1410 01:01:58,050 --> 01:01:51,760 and that is New Orleans correct Chad oh 1411 01:02:03,120 --> 01:01:58,060 sorry there we are 97 was the New 1412 01:02:06,420 --> 01:02:03,130 Orleans event yes yes it was right 1997 1413 01:02:09,630 --> 01:02:06,430 is this is when there's no doubt to 1414 01:02:11,250 --> 01:02:09,640 either of it that as I said we we no 1415 01:02:13,650 --> 01:02:11,260 longer had the luxury of being asleep 1416 01:02:15,630 --> 01:02:13,660 about anything happening in our lives 1417 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:15,640 knowing this was the awakening this was 1418 01:02:18,530 --> 01:02:16,930 the shift this was the moment that 1419 01:02:24,810 --> 01:02:18,540 everything changed 1420 01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:24,820 absolutely so Chad and I have moved into 1421 01:02:30,420 --> 01:02:27,520 the heart of the quarter we I'm working 1422 01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:30,430 in a very exclusive salon a couple 1423 01:02:36,089 --> 01:02:32,640 blocks from where we live 1424 01:02:37,620 --> 01:02:36,099 the people that I work for are in their 1425 01:02:41,210 --> 01:02:37,630 family-owned business they've been in 1426 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:41,220 business since 1929 well-known worldwide 1427 01:02:48,180 --> 01:02:46,210 kind of notoriety if you will and they 1428 01:02:51,089 --> 01:02:48,190 have hired a young woman at this time 1429 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:51,099 named Jacqueline and Jacqueline at the 1430 01:02:56,589 --> 01:02:53,490 time is 24 never married no children 1431 01:03:02,319 --> 01:02:56,599 tall slender long blond hair 1432 01:03:05,140 --> 01:03:02,329 very pretty very straightforward not a 1433 01:03:07,989 --> 01:03:05,150 drama queen of any kind and certainly 1434 01:03:11,169 --> 01:03:07,999 not somebody who would make something up 1435 01:03:13,929 --> 01:03:11,179 storytelling kind of what-have-you chad 1436 01:03:17,109 --> 01:03:13,939 is 30 at the time and I have just turned 1437 01:03:20,009 --> 01:03:17,119 40 and again Chad and I have never had 1438 01:03:22,299 --> 01:03:20,019 children so none of us have kids 1439 01:03:24,849 --> 01:03:22,309 Jacqueline and I from the moment we 1440 01:03:27,370 --> 01:03:24,859 first met now I'd like to also preface 1441 01:03:29,650 --> 01:03:27,380 that from 95 and jump we moved to the 1442 01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:29,660 French Quarter in 95 after we saw that 1443 01:03:33,579 --> 01:03:32,089 first craft it wasn't long after that 1444 01:03:36,279 --> 01:03:33,589 then Chad and I didn't moved you know 1445 01:03:37,779 --> 01:03:36,289 moved to the French Quarter we know is 1446 01:03:39,939 --> 01:03:37,789 one of the most like it the potent 1447 01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:39,949 paranormal and overall like weird 1448 01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:41,359 energetic thing cities in the entire 1449 01:03:44,019 --> 01:03:42,799 country is it not I mean there's a lot 1450 01:03:47,409 --> 01:03:44,029 going on in New Orleans 1451 01:03:50,019 --> 01:03:47,419 in that regard a lot going on and we had 1452 01:03:52,299 --> 01:03:50,029 experienced a couple of years of I call 1453 01:03:55,719 --> 01:03:52,309 all the paranormal high strangeness and 1454 01:03:59,439 --> 01:03:55,729 basically always have we're experiencing 1455 01:04:01,269 --> 01:03:59,449 this and all forms paranormal high 1456 01:04:05,049 --> 01:04:01,279 strangeness for the two years prior to 1457 01:04:07,859 --> 01:04:05,059 this 97 event it seems like it's all 1458 01:04:11,769 --> 01:04:07,869 amping up around Chad 9 and so 1459 01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:11,779 Jacqueline is now a new hire if you will 1460 01:04:15,279 --> 01:04:14,089 and from the moment her and I met even 1461 01:04:17,919 --> 01:04:15,289 though there was such an age difference 1462 01:04:22,630 --> 01:04:17,929 between us she was familiar 1463 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:22,640 she felt familiar to me and it was love 1464 01:04:27,849 --> 01:04:24,890 at first sight for me I just loved her 1465 01:04:30,909 --> 01:04:27,859 and I felt that she felt the same way 1466 01:04:33,130 --> 01:04:30,919 about me and so one evening Jacqueline 1467 01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:33,140 for one afternoon Jacqueline had asked 1468 01:04:37,449 --> 01:04:35,089 me if I wanted to go out that night and 1469 01:04:39,219 --> 01:04:37,459 have drinks and dinner and the quarter 1470 01:04:41,049 --> 01:04:39,229 and I accept it and I said let's call 1471 01:04:43,269 --> 01:04:41,059 Chad he likes to play with the girls and 1472 01:04:46,809 --> 01:04:43,279 I knew he'd be joyous to come along too 1473 01:04:48,399 --> 01:04:46,819 so that's just what we did and so as I 1474 01:04:50,669 --> 01:04:48,409 said we're only a couple blocks from the 1475 01:04:52,899 --> 01:04:50,679 shots the Chad walked over and met us 1476 01:04:55,539 --> 01:04:52,909 Jacqueline had driven to work that 1477 01:04:57,249 --> 01:04:55,549 morning in parked her car up the street 1478 01:04:59,739 --> 01:04:57,259 from our shop which happened to be on 1479 01:05:03,209 --> 01:04:59,749 one end of the French Quarter the 1480 01:05:06,699 --> 01:05:03,219 quarter is about 23 blocks square if the 1481 01:05:08,799 --> 01:05:06,709 24/7 party it's never stopped it never 1482 01:05:10,060 --> 01:05:08,809 goes to sleep yeah it's like a little 1483 01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:10,070 Vegas I suspect 1484 01:05:16,780 --> 01:05:14,510 anyways and so the moment that we left 1485 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:16,790 the shop it was probably around 9:30 1486 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:20,450 p.m. we're walking and we'll just a 1487 01:05:24,970 --> 01:05:22,970 couple blocks off of Bourbon Street the 1488 01:05:27,310 --> 01:05:24,980 famous Bourbon Street so we decide we're 1489 01:05:29,530 --> 01:05:27,320 going to go down Bourbon 1490 01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:29,540 Jacqueline leaves her car parked and 1491 01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:31,760 we're going to do this all on foot we're 1492 01:05:37,690 --> 01:05:33,440 just making a night of it so we have no 1493 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:37,700 real plan again the shortened version of 1494 01:05:43,540 --> 01:05:40,850 this is each location that we stopped at 1495 01:05:46,750 --> 01:05:43,550 well I'm sorry let me preface also that 1496 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:46,760 we all three immediately understood or 1497 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:49,130 at least I remember and Chad does that 1498 01:05:56,380 --> 01:05:53,690 the vibe of the quarter felt off the 1499 01:05:58,180 --> 01:05:56,390 energy felt off and as I've tried to 1500 01:06:01,360 --> 01:05:58,190 tell folks you know you know your 1501 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:01,370 neighborhood you're familiar with your 1502 01:06:05,500 --> 01:06:02,810 neighborhood and energy of your 1503 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:05,510 neighborhood the rhythm is chad is 1504 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:08,210 saying and of course on this night it's 1505 01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:11,690 not the same at all it's not real overt 1506 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:14,720 in terms of anything we could see it was 1507 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:17,570 the energy feel and then as we started 1508 01:06:21,850 --> 01:06:20,090 down Bourbon we realized there were no 1509 01:06:25,030 --> 01:06:21,860 people on the street there were a few 1510 01:06:26,770 --> 01:06:25,040 scrag lers but where is everybody and I 1511 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:26,780 remember saying that out loud where is 1512 01:06:35,050 --> 01:06:30,290 everybody this is weird so it felt very 1513 01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:35,060 Twilight Zone II again we stopped at 1514 01:06:40,330 --> 01:06:37,760 three different locations across those 1515 01:06:42,220 --> 01:06:40,340 blocks and each time we stopped at a 1516 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:42,230 location whether it was a restaurant or 1517 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:45,290 a bar or a combination of both there was 1518 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:48,170 no people there were no patron and there 1519 01:06:53,260 --> 01:06:50,570 were no waitstaff there were no 1520 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:53,270 waitresses no and this was a room this 1521 01:06:56,500 --> 01:06:54,290 wasn't in the middle of the night this 1522 01:06:57,940 --> 01:06:56,510 was like sometime in a during daylight 1523 01:06:58,920 --> 01:06:57,950 hours when people would normally be at 1524 01:07:01,750 --> 01:06:58,930 these locations 1525 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:01,760 well keep in mind in the quarter it 1526 01:07:05,470 --> 01:07:02,810 never sleeps 1527 01:07:07,870 --> 01:07:05,480 so it's an all-night party now this 1528 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:07,880 started at 9:30 at night so this was it 1529 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:09,170 nighttime okay so it's even creepier 1530 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:11,930 than clearly you know it's fairly early 1531 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:13,730 if you will because things are just 1532 01:07:16,900 --> 01:07:15,290 starting to happen in the quarter at 1533 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:16,910 midnight and 1:00 and 2:00 in the 1534 01:07:23,050 --> 01:07:20,210 morning so the point is there were just 1535 01:07:23,650 --> 01:07:23,060 no people yet each location that we 1536 01:07:26,529 --> 01:07:23,660 stopped 1537 01:07:29,950 --> 01:07:26,539 there was one attendant a bartender or a 1538 01:07:31,660 --> 01:07:29,960 manager but nobody else so by the time 1539 01:07:34,930 --> 01:07:31,670 we got to the end of the quarter it's 1540 01:07:37,990 --> 01:07:34,940 somewhere around 11 ish between 11:00 1541 01:07:40,150 --> 01:07:38,000 and 11:30 we're out there we've not had 1542 01:07:43,059 --> 01:07:40,160 anything to drink because we didn't stay 1543 01:07:44,589 --> 01:07:43,069 at any location we spent a little bit of 1544 01:07:46,569 --> 01:07:44,599 time at the first location because the 1545 01:07:49,450 --> 01:07:46,579 guy that was the manager was a friend of 1546 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:49,460 ours but we were so weirded out that we 1547 01:07:53,829 --> 01:07:52,130 just kept movin by the time we get to 1548 01:07:55,539 --> 01:07:53,839 the end of the French Quarter now it's 1549 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:55,549 every sit somewhere between 11:00 and 1550 01:07:59,920 --> 01:07:56,450 11:30 1551 01:08:02,410 --> 01:07:59,930 please take note we were not drinking we 1552 01:08:04,930 --> 01:08:02,420 did not use drugs nor was there anybody 1553 01:08:08,140 --> 01:08:04,940 around to draaga which would have almost 1554 01:08:12,010 --> 01:08:08,150 felt easier to comprehend but there 1555 01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:12,020 wasn't anybody it's it's as if you the 1556 01:08:16,809 --> 01:08:13,369 universe ended up so that you couldn't 1557 01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:16,819 find an excuse somewhere somehow exactly 1558 01:08:22,300 --> 01:08:19,520 that we had no excuses and we have no 1559 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:22,310 excuses what happened to us happened to 1560 01:08:32,559 --> 01:08:29,810 us whatever that is so we get to the end 1561 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:32,569 of the quarter and we're standing on a 1562 01:08:37,150 --> 01:08:34,850 street corner the three of us and I 1563 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:37,160 finally tell Chad kind of privately I 1564 01:08:41,979 --> 01:08:39,770 just want to go home like Dorothy and Oz 1565 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:41,989 I just want to go home I'm so bored I 1566 01:08:46,539 --> 01:08:43,730 just want to go home I didn't want to 1567 01:08:49,740 --> 01:08:46,549 walk the walks back yeah I'm we're over 1568 01:08:52,660 --> 01:08:49,750 it I asked Jan even to call us a cab and 1569 01:08:54,820 --> 01:08:52,670 that's the last thing the three of us 1570 01:08:59,200 --> 01:08:54,830 remember collectively was somewhere 1571 01:09:01,660 --> 01:08:59,210 between 11:00 and 11:30 at night I will 1572 01:09:04,749 --> 01:09:01,670 kind of shorten that up and then Chad 1573 01:09:08,530 --> 01:09:04,759 will take over here I am the only one 1574 01:09:10,930 --> 01:09:08,540 that it appears was returned with memory 1575 01:09:12,550 --> 01:09:10,940 of what I call the in-between experience 1576 01:09:14,590 --> 01:09:12,560 I have no memory of coming off that 1577 01:09:17,229 --> 01:09:14,600 corner and I have no memory of being 1578 01:09:20,349 --> 01:09:17,239 returned home but the next thing I know 1579 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:20,359 off is standing off that corner if it's 1580 01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:23,210 the next day I'm now sitting straight up 1581 01:09:29,079 --> 01:09:25,520 in my living room on my daybed 1582 01:09:31,749 --> 01:09:29,089 mm-my cross-legged Indian style like I 1583 01:09:33,999 --> 01:09:31,759 do when I'm private rubbing my arms 1584 01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:34,009 looking around my house with sunshine 1585 01:09:39,370 --> 01:09:37,040 coming through my windows losing my mind 1586 01:09:43,059 --> 01:09:39,380 I absolutely feel like I'm losing my 1587 01:09:46,030 --> 01:09:43,069 mind I'm terrified because where's Chad 1588 01:09:48,490 --> 01:09:46,040 and where's Jacqueline and oh my god 1589 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:48,500 what happened to me is what's going on 1590 01:09:51,570 --> 01:09:49,250 in my head 1591 01:09:54,730 --> 01:09:51,580 surely you must have felt like maybe 1592 01:09:56,770 --> 01:09:54,740 somehow you were drugged or taken 1593 01:09:59,260 --> 01:09:56,780 advantage of or things to see you know 1594 01:10:02,440 --> 01:09:59,270 so much will be running through anyone's 1595 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:02,450 head at that point in time especially if 1596 01:10:07,300 --> 01:10:05,690 you just last thing you know you're 1597 01:10:09,490 --> 01:10:07,310 you're in the street and then suddenly 1598 01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:09,500 you wake up and you're you're just there 1599 01:10:15,460 --> 01:10:11,450 by yourself I mean that's that's 1600 01:10:17,650 --> 01:10:15,470 frightening it was terrifying and also 1601 01:10:20,010 --> 01:10:17,660 keep in mind that I have a very as I say 1602 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:20,020 a cute memory of the in-between 1603 01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:25,610 experience right so you know I'm happy 1604 01:10:30,820 --> 01:10:28,640 to share all of that with you but chad 1605 01:10:33,310 --> 01:10:30,830 has had regression since this is 1606 01:10:36,820 --> 01:10:33,320 happened and he has a full-blown account 1607 01:10:38,830 --> 01:10:36,830 of his experience and I'd like to say 1608 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:38,840 before I have him share that with you 1609 01:10:44,110 --> 01:10:41,090 please all keep in mind that in my 1610 01:10:48,460 --> 01:10:44,120 memory I'm not with Chad and Jacqueline 1611 01:10:51,460 --> 01:10:48,470 and in his regression I'm not in his 1612 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:51,470 experience either he thinks possibly 1613 01:10:57,340 --> 01:10:53,330 he's with Jacqueline but I know we're in 1614 01:11:00,250 --> 01:10:57,350 the picture so however you'd like us to 1615 01:11:02,770 --> 01:11:00,260 go from there we're happy to share all 1616 01:11:05,460 --> 01:11:02,780 that we can yeah well you know I think 1617 01:11:07,630 --> 01:11:05,470 we have a limited time left decoded here 1618 01:11:09,220 --> 01:11:07,640 yeah we got about 15 minutes left I 1619 01:11:11,860 --> 01:11:09,230 think it would be kind of here cool to 1620 01:11:13,300 --> 01:11:11,870 hear a little bit of Chad's experiences 1621 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:13,310 in his operation and then if we have 1622 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:15,770 time get into a little bit of look the 1623 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:16,850 in between was like because 1624 01:11:20,290 --> 01:11:18,410 chronologically that was the way things 1625 01:11:21,730 --> 01:11:20,300 went if not we can just seize that for 1626 01:11:22,930 --> 01:11:21,740 next week's show because you know 1627 01:11:24,460 --> 01:11:22,940 there's nothing like a good cliffhanger 1628 01:11:25,780 --> 01:11:24,470 if we could end it on a note like that 1629 01:11:27,460 --> 01:11:25,790 that'd be wonderful so yeah let's hear a 1630 01:11:29,260 --> 01:11:27,470 little bit about Chad's experience in 1631 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:29,270 his regression and what has kind of come 1632 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:31,250 of the hypnosis and the time he has 1633 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:32,690 spent diving back into it and by the way 1634 01:11:37,540 --> 01:11:34,850 Chad another question I would have about 1635 01:11:39,070 --> 01:11:37,550 that is did you fear going into 1636 01:11:41,890 --> 01:11:39,080 regression the first time that you did 1637 01:11:44,290 --> 01:11:41,900 it as to what you would find out as a 1638 01:11:46,420 --> 01:11:44,300 result of doing that did you have a 1639 01:11:48,250 --> 01:11:46,430 struggle with committing to do that or 1640 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:48,260 did you want to do it or and were you 1641 01:11:51,359 --> 01:11:49,610 excited to do it how are you feeling 1642 01:11:56,689 --> 01:11:51,369 going into it and then 1643 01:12:01,200 --> 01:11:56,699 Oh No I was I was totally about it I 1644 01:12:05,939 --> 01:12:01,210 wanted to find out you know I I knew 1645 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:05,949 that something extraordinary happened to 1646 01:12:12,180 --> 01:12:09,130 Alta and I so I was very curious to find 1647 01:12:14,850 --> 01:12:12,190 out what had happened and also Chad went 1648 01:12:17,399 --> 01:12:14,860 into regression he seemed to go and he 1649 01:12:18,919 --> 01:12:17,409 seemed to respond to regression very 1650 01:12:21,660 --> 01:12:18,929 easily 1651 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:21,670 I've tried regression it's never worked 1652 01:12:27,359 --> 01:12:24,010 for me I've had high strangeness happen 1653 01:12:29,879 --> 01:12:27,369 but but it it certainly Chad seems to be 1654 01:12:37,709 --> 01:12:29,889 built for it because he moved into it 1655 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:37,719 very easily so so Chad yeah let's let's 1656 01:12:44,959 --> 01:12:41,650 I'm I'm gripping the seat of my chair 1657 01:12:49,140 --> 01:12:44,969 right now ready to hear your experience 1658 01:12:51,629 --> 01:12:49,150 so yeah I remember that night happening 1659 01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:51,639 exactly like house it just explained it 1660 01:13:01,200 --> 01:12:56,530 you know I left my last memory was 11:30 1661 01:13:05,220 --> 01:13:01,210 now in my regression 11:00 11:30 in my 1662 01:13:12,410 --> 01:13:05,230 regression I remember a setting there 1663 01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:12,420 kind of on this stoop waiting and I 1664 01:13:20,010 --> 01:13:15,040 noticed this bright light coming from 1665 01:13:23,459 --> 01:13:20,020 around the corner and through the glass 1666 01:13:25,500 --> 01:13:23,469 where the storefront was I get the 1667 01:13:28,830 --> 01:13:25,510 girl's attention we walk around the 1668 01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:28,840 corner and we see this or it's probably 1669 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:32,830 12 foot in diameter it's probably 15 1670 01:13:36,930 --> 01:13:34,810 foot off the ground and it's probably 1671 01:13:42,930 --> 01:13:36,940 about a half a block down the road down 1672 01:13:46,919 --> 01:13:42,940 the street it's bright white just cream 1673 01:13:48,990 --> 01:13:46,929 crisp beautiful light we're saying we 1674 01:13:51,390 --> 01:13:49,000 stand there maybe thirty seconds at the 1675 01:13:56,070 --> 01:13:51,400 most in this thing comes at us and it 1676 01:13:58,979 --> 01:13:56,080 just engulfs me my next memory is I'm 1677 01:14:02,280 --> 01:13:58,989 walking down this corridor it's kind of 1678 01:14:04,350 --> 01:14:02,290 gently turning to the right there's just 1679 01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:04,360 being in front of me 1680 01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:08,230 and he's got this big bulbous head he's 1681 01:14:14,069 --> 01:14:11,440 probably about three foot tall he's got 1682 01:14:18,270 --> 01:14:14,079 his skin tone is kind of a pale gray 1683 01:14:23,220 --> 01:14:18,280 skin but he's not like the the beings 1684 01:14:26,850 --> 01:14:23,230 that you see on TV he's he's not real 1685 01:14:27,959 --> 01:14:26,860 thin he's kind of dwarfish and it's 1686 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:27,969 interesting 1687 01:14:34,979 --> 01:14:30,690 well whitley strieber has mentioned 1688 01:14:36,839 --> 01:14:34,989 short blue beings before i don't know if 1689 01:14:38,879 --> 01:14:36,849 you've ever heard him mentioned that or 1690 01:14:43,169 --> 01:14:38,889 had the chance to talk to him about it 1691 01:14:46,799 --> 01:14:43,179 but that's the the second time I've I've 1692 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:46,809 heard that before it's well I've heard 1693 01:14:50,220 --> 01:14:48,730 whitley described that and I've heard 1694 01:14:52,830 --> 01:14:50,230 you described that it would be really 1695 01:14:58,350 --> 01:14:52,840 interesting to hear hear you guys kind 1696 01:15:01,020 --> 01:14:58,360 of talk about it together yeah now now 1697 01:15:05,370 --> 01:15:01,030 this thing was not my blue bean he was 1698 01:15:07,879 --> 01:15:05,380 kind of a pale gray now I only saw him 1699 01:15:12,030 --> 01:15:07,889 from behind he was wearing a black 1700 01:15:16,350 --> 01:15:12,040 one-piece jumpsuit now I have heard 1701 01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:16,360 Whitley just this last few months on 1702 01:15:21,330 --> 01:15:17,199 this 1703 01:15:24,209 --> 01:15:21,340 so anyway Presley I could see a tall 1704 01:15:27,419 --> 01:15:24,219 blond female beside me walking to my 1705 01:15:31,069 --> 01:15:27,429 left this describes our friend Jacquelyn 1706 01:15:35,580 --> 01:15:31,079 but I didn't turn to look see if it was 1707 01:15:38,879 --> 01:15:35,590 my next memory is I'm in this huge room 1708 01:15:42,660 --> 01:15:38,889 it just seemed infinite it was pretty 1709 01:15:45,330 --> 01:15:42,670 much totally black off to my left I 1710 01:15:50,129 --> 01:15:45,340 could see a tall blonde female laying on 1711 01:15:52,859 --> 01:15:50,139 an examining table she was nude but she 1712 01:15:54,990 --> 01:15:52,869 was censored from head to toe I couldn't 1713 01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:55,000 tell who it was I didn't see body parts 1714 01:16:01,140 --> 01:15:58,210 or anything like that there were three 1715 01:16:02,450 --> 01:16:01,150 being around her one in each side and 1716 01:16:06,629 --> 01:16:02,460 one at her head 1717 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:06,639 these beings had they were probably 8 9 1718 01:16:15,180 --> 01:16:11,290 foot tall they were very bugga Sh big 1719 01:16:17,940 --> 01:16:15,190 eyes mouths close to their their chin 1720 01:16:21,780 --> 01:16:17,950 almost like a praying man 1721 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:21,790 their arms were kind of crook'd they 1722 01:16:27,390 --> 01:16:24,130 were wearing these cloaks almost like a 1723 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:27,400 Jesuit priest or a grim reaper without 1724 01:16:38,700 --> 01:16:30,370 the hood she never seemed to be in 1725 01:16:41,820 --> 01:16:38,710 distress or even conscious I focused my 1726 01:16:44,550 --> 01:16:41,830 attention back to my immediate but now 1727 01:16:46,730 --> 01:16:44,560 I'm sitting in this chair almost like a 1728 01:16:49,590 --> 01:16:46,740 dentist's chair but more comfortable 1729 01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:49,600 during my experience I'm never nervous 1730 01:16:59,460 --> 01:16:54,330 I'm never scared I'm never hurt this was 1731 01:17:03,000 --> 01:16:59,470 totally you know a positive experience 1732 01:17:06,630 --> 01:17:03,010 for me so I turned and I focused my 1733 01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:06,640 attention to my immediate I looked over 1734 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:09,280 to my right and there's my little blue 1735 01:17:15,750 --> 01:17:12,610 being and he's again he's probably about 1736 01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:15,760 three foot tall very thin like the 1737 01:17:21,870 --> 01:17:18,310 graves that you see on TV almond shaped 1738 01:17:25,700 --> 01:17:21,880 eyes you know bulbous head little flip 1739 01:17:30,420 --> 01:17:25,710 for the mouth in his presence his aura 1740 01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:30,430 was that of like a professor slash 1741 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:35,110 shaman flesh scientist slash healer just 1742 01:17:42,780 --> 01:17:39,010 all together just he was just beautiful 1743 01:17:48,150 --> 01:17:42,790 and you know his blueness was just this 1744 01:17:52,140 --> 01:17:48,160 bright vibrant blue just like lively 1745 01:17:56,460 --> 01:17:52,150 blue he goes over and he picks up this 1746 01:18:00,000 --> 01:17:56,470 bomb and he has the Box in his in his 1747 01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:00,010 right hand he takes his left hand and 1748 01:18:05,310 --> 01:18:03,550 puts it into the side of the box when he 1749 01:18:07,590 --> 01:18:05,320 pulls his hand out there's this 1750 01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:07,600 substance it's probably maybe the size 1751 01:18:12,510 --> 01:18:08,560 of a quarter 1752 01:18:15,170 --> 01:18:12,520 it's kind of round but it's kind of 1753 01:18:19,650 --> 01:18:15,180 undulating and you know moving around 1754 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:19,660 there's it's blue just like him so 1755 01:18:27,930 --> 01:18:24,250 there's real quickly is is his skin blue 1756 01:18:31,650 --> 01:18:27,940 is he glowing blue are his eyes blue is 1757 01:18:34,980 --> 01:18:31,660 it all blue or what what 1758 01:18:39,190 --> 01:18:34,990 what part of it him was I'm just curious 1759 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:39,200 his skin is blue now his eyes are black 1760 01:18:51,220 --> 01:18:43,970 okay solid woman but his his skin is 1761 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:51,230 blue he's just a vibrant blue Oh God 1762 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:53,090 go ahead sorry I didn't interrupt them 1763 01:19:02,170 --> 01:18:56,530 just no more just great 1764 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:02,180 great question he when he pulls his hand 1765 01:19:07,180 --> 01:19:04,730 out he has this husband and there's 1766 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:07,190 little kind of metal flakes or kind of 1767 01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:09,890 glittery kind of stuff in it it's blue 1768 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:14,000 just what same colors he is he sits the 1769 01:19:18,370 --> 01:19:16,850 Box down apparently because I really 1770 01:19:23,740 --> 01:19:18,380 don't even remember him sit in the box 1771 01:19:26,290 --> 01:19:23,750 yeah it's his hand he's only four digit 1772 01:19:31,140 --> 01:19:26,300 so he's got two fingers out almost like 1773 01:19:35,530 --> 01:19:31,150 in a pieces slow four times 1774 01:19:38,170 --> 01:19:35,540 I'm just changed so Jesus or boo-boo 1775 01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:38,180 you know it's two outer fingers folded 1776 01:19:44,350 --> 01:19:41,090 in and the two middle fingers up and 1777 01:19:46,540 --> 01:19:44,360 when he does this this substance starts 1778 01:19:50,260 --> 01:19:46,550 spinning now it's free floating above 1779 01:19:53,370 --> 01:19:50,270 his hand and this stuff sixth inning and 1780 01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:53,380 the faster it spins that blueness and 1781 01:20:01,060 --> 01:19:56,570 the sparkly stuff kind of dissipate out 1782 01:20:03,910 --> 01:20:01,070 of it and kind of rotating around it it 1783 01:20:08,650 --> 01:20:03,920 starts slowing down and then it turned 1784 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:08,660 into this double pointed pyramid crystal 1785 01:20:18,700 --> 01:20:15,410 and it's just very clear and I remember 1786 01:20:21,340 --> 01:20:18,710 thinking to him you know you know 1787 01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:21,350 telepathically I get you know why are 1788 01:20:26,170 --> 01:20:23,450 you showing this to me you know this is 1789 01:20:28,450 --> 01:20:26,180 something very important you know I'm 1790 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:28,460 not a doctor I'm not a scientist I'm not 1791 01:20:34,510 --> 01:20:30,530 an engineer you know why he's showing 1792 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:34,520 this to me and he told me that I will 1793 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:40,130 know in time or when it's time my next 1794 01:20:45,189 --> 01:20:43,850 memory is I'm in this other room two 1795 01:20:48,330 --> 01:20:45,199 walls that are very 1796 01:20:52,270 --> 01:20:48,340 straight and one that's kind of Kincaid 1797 01:20:54,580 --> 01:20:52,280 now there's this overstuffed black 1798 01:20:57,370 --> 01:20:54,590 leather chair in the middle of the room 1799 01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:57,380 and I remember thinking to myself how 1800 01:21:04,060 --> 01:21:00,800 out of place it is and you know it looks 1801 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:04,070 comfortable but it's not the walls are 1802 01:21:13,299 --> 01:21:09,170 very in the walls like in the hallway in 1803 01:21:16,449 --> 01:21:13,309 the walls in this room are you know kind 1804 01:21:19,569 --> 01:21:16,459 of a gray metallic no boat no rivet no 1805 01:21:24,219 --> 01:21:19,579 thing you know it just seems melted 1806 01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:24,229 together smelt it together now I focused 1807 01:21:30,580 --> 01:21:27,650 my attention to the wall this kind of 1808 01:21:33,370 --> 01:21:30,590 Kincaid okay and we only have about five 1809 01:21:36,549 --> 01:21:33,380 minutes left so just keep in mind okay 1810 01:21:40,390 --> 01:21:36,559 I'll speed it up real quick yeah and 1811 01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:40,400 also we can also save you know get it to 1812 01:21:44,620 --> 01:21:42,170 a point to where we can save it and 1813 01:21:48,549 --> 01:21:44,630 continue next week because this is just 1814 01:21:52,330 --> 01:21:48,559 crucial really amazing stuff yeah it's 1815 01:21:54,129 --> 01:21:52,340 almost over so focus my attention to 1816 01:21:55,899 --> 01:21:54,139 this wall that's kind of concave and 1817 01:21:58,930 --> 01:21:55,909 what I thought was a solid great 1818 01:22:02,229 --> 01:21:58,940 metallic wall I could see through it and 1819 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:02,239 I could see stars and planets and you 1820 01:22:06,850 --> 01:22:03,650 know it's like I'm out in the galaxy 1821 01:22:09,669 --> 01:22:06,860 somewhere and I'm sitting there in awe 1822 01:22:13,330 --> 01:22:09,679 and all of a sudden this little craft 1823 01:22:17,770 --> 01:22:13,340 right outside the wall speeds past and 1824 01:22:19,930 --> 01:22:17,780 it hits about 10 15 feet away it stops 1825 01:22:20,770 --> 01:22:19,940 and it comes back almost like it's doing 1826 01:22:23,290 --> 01:22:20,780 a double-take 1827 01:22:25,779 --> 01:22:23,300 it's sitting there floating right 1828 01:22:27,189 --> 01:22:25,789 outside the wall and it's 1829 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:27,199 football-shaped 1830 01:22:34,149 --> 01:22:29,530 it's about three foot long two foot wide 1831 01:22:36,430 --> 01:22:34,159 little metal antennas and blinky lights 1832 01:22:38,739 --> 01:22:36,440 and everything I could feel intelligence 1833 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:38,749 coming out of it it's set there for 1834 01:22:46,060 --> 01:22:42,050 about 30 45 seconds and shot off the 1835 01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:46,070 game and that's then my next memory is 1836 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:47,570 waking up in bed 1837 01:22:51,939 --> 01:22:49,610 wow what a phenomenal story that's 1838 01:22:53,649 --> 01:22:51,949 really quickly I said we got a lot of 1839 01:22:55,509 --> 01:22:53,659 time but when you say you could feel 1840 01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:55,519 intelligence coming off of it what did 1841 01:22:59,220 --> 01:22:57,199 you mean by that because I think that's 1842 01:23:02,140 --> 01:22:59,230 an interesting way to fray 1843 01:23:05,290 --> 01:23:02,150 you know it's funny because it's almost 1844 01:23:07,570 --> 01:23:05,300 like it did a double-take like look at 1845 01:23:10,930 --> 01:23:07,580 the little monkey in the cage mom you 1846 01:23:13,210 --> 01:23:10,940 know it was very it was q no way like 1847 01:23:16,090 --> 01:23:13,220 yours yeah Wow 1848 01:23:20,260 --> 01:23:16,100 it was it was in shock to see me as I 1849 01:23:22,990 --> 01:23:20,270 was it it's some wild and so there's 1850 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:23,000 there's still so much left to the story 1851 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:26,090 there is all this experience there is 1852 01:23:30,220 --> 01:23:28,610 Jacqueline's experience that we're going 1853 01:23:33,850 --> 01:23:30,230 to hear we're going to hear that next 1854 01:23:35,860 --> 01:23:33,860 week on the show and we're also if you 1855 01:23:38,860 --> 01:23:35,870 guys are open to it all day and Chad I 1856 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:38,870 would like to potentially hear your 1857 01:23:43,570 --> 01:23:41,210 thoughts and your analysis on this 1858 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:43,580 because on a lot of shows I know that 1859 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:45,410 you've shared the experience and we 1860 01:23:49,060 --> 01:23:47,090 thank you very much for coming on today 1861 01:23:51,310 --> 01:23:49,070 and sharing it but I would love to hear 1862 01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:51,320 your thoughts and your your you know 1863 01:23:57,460 --> 01:23:55,370 what you feel it means and and I know 1864 01:24:01,090 --> 01:23:57,470 it's probably just more questions than 1865 01:24:03,700 --> 01:24:01,100 than answers I don't think no definitely 1866 01:24:06,490 --> 01:24:03,710 not so it's like to save that all for 1867 01:24:08,290 --> 01:24:06,500 next week but just for our listeners you 1868 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:08,300 know well we'll try to cover some of 1869 01:24:12,190 --> 01:24:10,250 that stuff if you're okay with that and 1870 01:24:15,340 --> 01:24:12,200 comfortable with it because it's just 1871 01:24:18,010 --> 01:24:15,350 there's so much here and one other thing 1872 01:24:20,050 --> 01:24:18,020 I want to say is that Ulta and Chad 1873 01:24:21,940 --> 01:24:20,060 reached out the truth funders and and 1874 01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:21,950 why they're on the show today is to not 1875 01:24:26,950 --> 01:24:24,560 only share their story but yes to 1876 01:24:30,010 --> 01:24:26,960 actually share their story they would 1877 01:24:33,010 --> 01:24:30,020 like to as you can see there there's so 1878 01:24:37,300 --> 01:24:33,020 much going on here and they would like 1879 01:24:39,190 --> 01:24:37,310 to put it down in in book form and get 1880 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:39,200 it out there so that's many people many 1881 01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:41,930 bases on a permanent basis because a 1882 01:24:49,420 --> 01:24:44,690 story like this is a story that needs to 1883 01:24:53,350 --> 01:24:49,430 to stay alive and and live on you know 1884 01:24:55,750 --> 01:24:53,360 even past past our own lives and beast 1885 01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:55,760 spread there will be other people that 1886 01:25:01,630 --> 01:24:58,010 may have experienced things like this 1887 01:25:04,090 --> 01:25:01,640 this is you know not a lot of people out 1888 01:25:05,770 --> 01:25:04,100 there with their experience for mark 1889 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:05,780 mark your stream is breaking up just so 1890 01:25:10,420 --> 01:25:07,850 you know so I'm gonna jump in here but 1891 01:25:12,670 --> 01:25:10,430 yeah like Mark is saying it is a 1892 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:12,680 very worthwhile and valuable story that 1893 01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:15,650 does demand almost being shared as time 1894 01:25:19,630 --> 01:25:17,330 goes on and let's face it as much as 1895 01:25:20,590 --> 01:25:19,640 alta and chad might like to or maybe not 1896 01:25:22,270 --> 01:25:20,600 like to I don't know they're not going 1897 01:25:24,610 --> 01:25:22,280 to be here forever to be on to talk 1898 01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:24,620 about the story with us and it doesn't 1899 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:26,000 deliver on past when they when they 1900 01:25:30,070 --> 01:25:28,370 leave us so truth fighters calm we'll be 1901 01:25:31,510 --> 01:25:30,080 launching a project with them next week 1902 01:25:33,550 --> 01:25:31,520 it'll go live I think mark said on 1903 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:33,560 Wednesday I believe and they're gonna be 1904 01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:34,610 writing a book they want to put a book 1905 01:25:38,020 --> 01:25:36,320 out and you'll be able to donate to 1906 01:25:39,580 --> 01:25:38,030 their campaign starting next week on 1907 01:25:41,260 --> 01:25:39,590 truth unders com we're getting super 1908 01:25:42,700 --> 01:25:41,270 tight on time I wouldn't thank you guys 1909 01:25:44,500 --> 01:25:42,710 both so much for coming on the show with 1910 01:25:46,150 --> 01:25:44,510 us and we cannot wait to get back into 1911 01:25:47,380 --> 01:25:46,160 it with you next week I need to write 1912 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:47,390 down a couple things soever remember 1913 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:49,970 where we're at here and we'll get just 1914 01:25:52,930 --> 01:25:51,290 knee-deep right back into it I think 1915 01:25:54,130 --> 01:25:52,940 next week we should just jump right into 1916 01:25:55,930 --> 01:25:54,140 the show just to make sure that we have 1917 01:25:58,030 --> 01:25:55,940 enough time to get it all in there and 1918 01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:58,040 then talk about your project you're 1919 01:26:01,180 --> 01:25:59,360 listening to true flenders radio on the 1920 01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:01,190 inception radio network I want to leave 1921 01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:02,810 you guys with this question because I 1922 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:03,770 think it's a great question that was 1923 01:26:07,390 --> 01:26:04,970 posed by a listener in the chatroom 1924 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:07,400 Neutron and we'll address this right out 1925 01:26:11,710 --> 01:26:08,930 the gate next week as soon as we jump 1926 01:26:13,060 --> 01:26:11,720 into the show we'll have you guys answer 1927 01:26:14,470 --> 01:26:13,070 this question but it is a very good 1928 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:14,480 question and I really want to know the 1929 01:26:19,420 --> 01:26:16,370 answer and I'm bummed that I can't get 1930 01:26:22,660 --> 01:26:19,430 it from you now because it's actually a 1931 01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:22,670 phenomenal question have the two of you 1932 01:26:28,150 --> 01:26:25,610 ever had an encounter together but where 1933 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:28,160 both of you saw different things than 1934 01:26:33,340 --> 01:26:30,650 the other so you guys experienced an 1935 01:26:35,020 --> 01:26:33,350 encounter but your perception and your 1936 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:35,030 overall experience with it was 1937 01:26:38,290 --> 01:26:36,530 completely separate and it seems like 1938 01:26:40,300 --> 01:26:38,300 that's kind of what happened with the 1939 01:26:42,430 --> 01:26:40,310 New Orleans event and we're gonna get 1940 01:26:44,380 --> 01:26:42,440 into that immediately into the show next 1941 01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:44,390 week we got about 60 seconds left mark 1942 01:26:48,250 --> 01:26:45,920 if there's anything you want to say do 1943 01:26:51,250 --> 01:26:48,260 it now and do it quickly yeah I just 1944 01:26:53,470 --> 01:26:51,260 want to say you know go to WWE funders 1945 01:26:54,970 --> 01:26:53,480 calm to learn more and see all the 1946 01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:54,980 wonderful projects that are up there 1947 01:27:00,700 --> 01:26:57,170 I want to thank Chad and Alta thank you 1948 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:00,710 both so much for coming on would you 1949 01:27:07,900 --> 01:27:03,410 like to say any last words before we go 1950 01:27:10,290 --> 01:27:07,910 and pick it up next week just how much 1951 01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:10,300 of an honor it is to be with you guys 1952 01:27:18,970 --> 01:27:13,370 you guys are you know doing a great 1953 01:27:21,340 --> 01:27:18,980 service service to many people and and 1954 01:27:22,229 --> 01:27:21,350 you made us both cry they're just so 1955 01:27:23,790 --> 01:27:22,239 great 1956 01:27:24,810 --> 01:27:23,800 leave it at that leave it at that next 1957 01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:24,820 week we'll get into that I want to know 1958 01:27:27,569 --> 01:27:26,110 what made him cry as soon as we do in 1959 01:27:28,919 --> 01:27:27,579 the show next week I see the two 1960 01:27:30,209 --> 01:27:28,929 thunders radio in the inception radio 1961 01:27:31,950 --> 01:27:30,219 network my name is art Webb for mark